Mar 03, 2021 Board Meeting

EXCEPT THE MODEL, PROBABLY AGENDAS WITH MR. CHAIRMAN THAT WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED

[1B. Accept or Modify the Agenda - School Board ]

[1C. Community Participation ]

NEXT UP WAS COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION.

PARTICIPATION IS A TIME AND ATTENDANCE FOR THE PUBLIC TO GIVE INPUT ON RELEVANT SCHOOL ISSUES AND NOT INTENDED TO BE A QUESTION AND ANSWER, PERIOD, IS THIS MAYBE THE FIRST TIME, THE VOICE SERVICE INFORMATION, PLEASE DO NOT EXPECT AN INDIVIDUAL RESPONSE OR ANY COMMENTS BY THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, BUT BE ASSURED THAT ANY CONCERNS WILL BE REVIEWED.

PLEASE PRINT YOUR NAME ON THE SHEET OF THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

YES, MY NAME'S NOEL WILLIAMS AND I LIVE ON CRIES ROAD IN FRONT ROW HERE.

AND, UH, MY CONCERN IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT, UH, CATCHING THESE ELEMENTARY KIDS UP ON THEIR EDUCATION? CAUSE MY GRAND NEPHEWS ARE FALLING BEHIND THERE.

I HAVE TWO IN SECOND GRADE AND ONE IN FIRST GRADE AND THEY'RE NOT UP ON THEIR MATH AND READING.

THEY'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD IN THEIR SCIENCE, BUT THEIR MATH AND READING.

THEY'RE FALLING BEHIND ON HOW ARE WE GOING TO CATCH THESE KIDS UP AND THESE GRADE LEVELS BECAUSE THEY MISSED A LOT OF SCHOOL, BUT THE SNOW AND EVERYTHING.

DO WE HAVE A SCHEDULING FOR LIKE MAYBE SUMMER SCHOOL OR ANY IDEA ABOUT THAT? I KNOW THERE WAS SOME PLANS ABOUT THE BALANCE WITH THE MINE.

I DON'T MIND.

YES MA'AM WE WILL HAVE SUMMER SCHOOL AND WE WERE WORKING ON THOSE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE MEETINGS AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE ENCOURAGED PARENTS TO ALSO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE, WITH THE PRINCIPALS AT EACH OF THE SCHOOLS TO, TO BRING STUDENTS IN ON ADDITIONAL DAYS OR ON WEDNESDAYS FOR WEDNESDAYS, FOR REMEDIATION OR, OR EXTRA INDIVIDUAL TUTORING SESSIONS.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE PLANS IN PLACE AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS SUMMER SCHOOL.

AND HOW EASY IT IS TO JUST SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, WHEN EVERYBODY GOES BACK TO SCHOOL ON THE 15TH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO LINDEN PARK.

MY NAME IS PINELLA BRANDT.

I LIVE ON FIVE 88 JONATHON ROAD AND LINDEN ON APPLE MOUNTAIN.

AND THIS WEEK WE GOT A LOVELY LETTER TELLING US THAT OUR BUS STOP WAS GOING TO BE MOVED.

AND I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS TODAY.

I TOOK MY CAR.

I DID NOT WALK BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TIME.

UM, AND FOR MY CHILDREN WHO ARE GOING TO BE WELL, ONE IS A FIFTH GRADER AND ONE IS A FRESHMEN.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO WALK 3.3 MILES UP OVER THE MOUNTAIN, DOWN OREGON, HOLLER TO GET TO THE BUS STOP.

YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING.

THEY SHOULD GO TO, IF THEY GO THE OTHER WAY UNDER THE OVERPASS TO 66 SOUND 55 AND DOWN THIS MAHALO ROAD, IT'LL ONLY TAKE THEM 48 MINUTES AND IT'S TWO AND A HALF MILES.

I'M LUCKY I CAN DRIVE MY KIDS TO SCHOOL, BUT THERE ARE KIDS ON OUR MOUNTAIN THAT ARE NOT THAT LUCKY.

AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF THIS IS SORT OF THE PAYBACK FOR US AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE WHOLE DEAL WAS SHEETS.

BUT I WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT KEEPING OUR KIDS SAFE.

I'VE HAD KIDS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS AND IT'S BEEN GOOD.

SOME OF IT HAS BEEN BAD, BUT I'M REALLY SURPRISED HOW LITTLE OUR KIDS' SAFETY MATTERS

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THEY'RE GOING TO BE KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WALKING FOR AN HOUR AND 10 MINUTES TO GET TO THE BUS.

THAT'S NOT REALLY OKAY.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WHOEVER NEEDS TO WORK ON THIS ACTUALLY SPENT SOME TIME COMING UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION BECAUSE THIS SOLUTION IS NOT VERY GOOD.

SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

I WILL VERY QUICKLY WRITE MY NAME AND MY ADDRESS ON HERE.

MY NAME IS PINELLA.

IT'S LIKE VANILLA WITH A P IN THE BEGINNING.

IT'S ACTUALLY PENNILESS AND NOBODY SAYS IT RIGHT.

AND I HAVE LIVED IN THIS COUNTRY NOW SINCE 1985.

SO I JUST SAY IT'S LIKE PINELLA, LIKE VANILLA WITH A P BECAUSE THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN FIGURE OUT.

AND THEY'LL REMEMBER USUALLY MY, UM, PROVIDERS THAT I DEAL WITH EVERY DAY.

REMEMBER WHAT MY NAME IS WHEN I SAY THAT.

SO NOW WHEN YOU MEET ME AND MARTIN, SO AUDIA, WHEREVER YOU CAN SAY, HEY PINNELL.

I REMEMBER YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, THE SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL WRESTLING TEAM KEPT OFF AN IMPRESSIVE SEASON DURING THE 2021 VHSL CLASS THREE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP.

ANYONE ELSE?

[2A. Skyline High School Wrestling Team - Dr. Ballenger ]

THEY FINISHED THE SEASON AS NORTHWESTERN DISTRICT CLASS THREE, REGION THREE, BE CHAMPIONS AND THE CLASS THREE STATE RUNNER UP THE HAWKS HAD THREE TEAM MEMBERS, WENT INDIVIDUAL STATE TITLES WHILE SEVEN OTHERS FINISHED IN THE TOP FIVE.

AND OUR ALLSTATE HONORS.

THE TEAM SECOND PLACE FINISHES IN THE STATE IS THE HIGHEST OF ANY TEAM AT SCOTT THAT AT SKYLINE HAS ACHIEVED.

AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE, ASK MR. BILL CUP, THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR TO COME UP AND HE WILL INTRODUCE THE COACHES AND THE WRESTLERS AND TALK ABOUT THEIR GREAT SEASON.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

UH, FIRST, BEFORE I START WITH THE RUSTLING, I'LL WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ALL OF YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU ALLOWED US TO DO HERE WITH OUR WINTER SPORTS.

WE HAD A TREMENDOUS SEASON, OBVIOUSLY WITH OUR YOUNG MEN IN THE WRESTLING PROGRAM, BUT OUR BASKETBALL BOYS FINISHED SECOND IN THE REGION.

UH, LOW STAGE TRIPLE OVERTIME GAME FOR THE REGION TITLE.

OUR GIRLS ASS TEAM HAD A WINNING RECORD AND OUR SCHOLASTIC BOWL PROGRAM HAD A WINNING RECORD ALSO.

SO WE WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL.

UH, I KNOW THERE ARE, UH, LOTS OF ATHLETES THAT GET TO OUR SCHOOL AND THEIR PARENTS THAT ARE THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAD TO COMPETE CAUSE NOT EVERYONE IN THE STATE WAS AFFORDED THAT OPPORTUNITY.

UH, I LIKE TO THINK WE MADE THE MOST OF IT.

WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE THAT OUR, ALL OF OUR TEAMS MADE IT THROUGH THE WINTER SEASON.

AND SO FAR AS WE'VE STARTED HERE INTO THE FALL SEASON WITH FOOTBALL CROSS COUNTRY, WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY WITH DEALING WITH THE COVID AND HAVE NOT HAD A OUTBREAK FOR ANY OF OUR TEAMS. SO, YOU KNOW, WITH A LITTLE LUCK, WE'LL KEEP THAT PROCESS GOING.

BUT WE DO WHEN I RECOGNIZE OUR WRESTLING PROGRAM.

AND AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO ASK YOU GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR HEAD WRESTLING COACH, MR. KYLE SIMON, UH, HE'LL COME UP AND INTRODUCE HIS STAFF AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE GUYS.

A THIRD IN STATE AND WHITE BOSLEY WHO FINISHED FIFTH.

UH, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU GUYS.

UH, NOT ONLY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE, UH, FOR THIS RECOGNITION ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE.

UM, THE FACT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AND A YEAR WHERE IT COULD HAVE BEEN VERY EASY TO MAKE A DECISION OTHERWISE DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, SIT ON OUR MINDS WITHOUT.

GREAT.

THANKS FOR THAT.

UH, JUST INTRODUCE, UH, SOME OF THESE GUYS HERE ON THE END, YOU HAVE COACH SCOTT HE'S ONE OF OUR ASSISTANT COACHES, UH, NEXT TO HIM IS CHRIS MOINES.

UH, CHRIS FINISHED FIFTH IN THE STATE THIS YEAR.

HE WAS ALSO A REGION CHAMPION.

UH, ETHAN ASHER FINISHED A YEAR OFF AS A INDIVIDUAL STATE CHAMPION.

UH, AND HE'LL BE BACK NEXT YEAR.

UH, TYLER DAVIS, ALSO A STATE CHAMPION COACH CARLSON COACH BOYLE HERE, WHO ALSO WORKS AT SCOTLAND HIGH SCHOOL.

AND HE HAS OUR SAY RUNNER UP TROPHY AND REGION TEAM TROPHY, UH, COACH CARLSON GO JASON, UH, PHOENIX LEA WHO FINISHED SECOND IN THE STATE THIS YEAR.

I'LL ALSO BE BACK NEXT YEAR, PEYTON CARTER, WHO WAS THIRD IN THE REGION, HUNTER PEARSON, WHO WILL BE BACK NEXT YEAR WAS A STARTER FOR US.

DUSTIN GOO FOURTH IN THE STATES.

JOSH DOMINO IS SECOND IN THE STATE.

HE HAD IT OFF WITH STATE CHAMP, HUNTER SOLOMON, WHO WAS

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UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST LIKE I SAY, VERY HAPPY, UH, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COMPETE.

AND, UH, WE WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT, UH, WE COULD FOLLOW THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES MITIGATION AND THE COVID PROTOCOLS THAT THE VHSL PUT OUT AND ALLOWED US IN THAT YOU GUYS WERE RACIST ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT WE COULD DO THAT.

UM, THESE GUYS WILL BE FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR THAT AND HOPEFULLY, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT AND FOR ALL OF THAT.

NOT ONLY FROM WITH YOU GUYS, BUT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

UH, IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE ABLE TO RUN A PROGRAM AND A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TO BUILD WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO, UH, WITHIN THIS COUNTY.

AND JUST LIKE SAY THANKFUL FOR NOT ONLY THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, OVER THESE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS TO DO EVEN BIGGER THINGS AND CONTINUE TO REPRESENT THIS COMMUNITY THE WAY THAT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN.

SORRY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE ENJOYED WATCHING.

Y'ALL WRESTLE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW AND I'VE THOROUGHLY ENJOYED IT THIS YEAR.

I'VE WATCHED ALL DAY IN THE STATE COMPETITION.

UM, AND MR. ASHER, YOU, WHAT DID YOU BREAK YOUR PHONE OR BREAK? WHAT DID YOU BREAK? HE HAS A BROKEN HAND AT THE COMPETITION, CORRECT? BECAUSE HE CAME OUT ON THE FINAL MATCH WITH HIS HAND SPLINTED AND COMPETED AND WON.

THEY, UH, LUCKILY WE HAVE A VERY GOOD TRAINER DOWN THERE.

I WAS ABLE TO GET HIM, UH, SET UP TO WHERE HE COULD COMPETE AND, UH, I WAS STILL ABLE TO WIN DESPITE THAT.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.

WHEN I SAW HIM COME OUT ON THE MAT WITH HIS HAND WRAPPED UP, NO, NOT THAT HARD CAST EITHER.

HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT.

SO YEAH, HE HAD TO HAVE THAT.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE RETURNING NEXT YEAR.

UH, NEXT YEAR IT WILL RETURN OUT OF OUR 14, 11.

SO WE HAVE SOME EIGHTH GRADERS AS WELL THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO SOME BIG THINGS.

SO WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD HAVE VERY GOOD SEASON AGAIN NEXT YEAR, BUT YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WELL, GENTLEMEN, I GREATLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID AND I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS.

UM, YOU GOTTA HAVE A LOT TO BE PROUD OF HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH.

EVEN IF YOU FINISH SECOND, THINK ABOUT ALL THE OTHER GUYS YOU'VE BEEN TO GET THERE.

SO YOUNG YOU GOT NEXT YEAR AGO, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A YEAR AFTER THAT.

SO YOU GOT A LOT, A LOT GOING FOR YOU, ALL OF THEM, COACHES, THANKS FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND HARD WORK.

CAUSE I KNOW THE HOURS YOU PUT IN IT'S LONG AND TEDIOUS, BUT IT PAYS OFF.

THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN THAT FEELING THAT YOU HAD WINNING THE REGIONS.

I'M SURE.

AND THEN, WOW.

SO POST, HOW MANY POINTS? UH, ABOUT 70 IT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT.

IT'S ACTUALLY THE TEAM, THE TEAM, THE TEAM THAT WON.

WE ACTUALLY KNEW EVERYTHING IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

WE FINISHED A 22 OR NO, AND WE ACTUALLY BEAT THEM IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

WE FINISHED, WE FINISHED THE REGULAR SEASON.

WE WERE AT THE TOP RANKED TEAM IN THE STATE OVERALL, BUT IN ANY CLASS, BUT NOT HERE AT THE END.

SUNBELT IS WHAT IT IS.

HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE UP HERE.

WE'LL HAVE A TEAM TROPHY FOR STATES TO SHOW YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU TALKED ABOUT MITIGATION.

THERE'S ONE SPORT.

THAT'S GOING TO BLOW UP IN YOUR FACE.

IF YOU DON'T DO THE RIGHT THINGS.

AS FAR AS CLEANLINESS AND EVERYTHING, IT'S RISK EVERYTHING ELSE.

THERE'S THIS POSSIBILITY OF SEPARATION AND NOT DOING ANYTHING.

YOU GUYS DID A FANTASTIC JOB.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

A TEAM OUT OF FREDERICKSBURG, AN IRISH SCREEN, THE SCORE AND HOW MUCH TIME WAS LEFT IN THE QUARTER.

MR. CUP.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FIELDING.

ALL OF MY TEXTS.

I KNEW I HAD TO DRUG CRAZY.

SOMETIMES WE DID HAVE, ESPECIALLY AT THE VERY BEGINNING WITH THE LAST STREAM, WHICH WAS NEW TO HOW THAT WAS GOING TO WORK AND GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, SOME OF THAT OUT, WE'RE STARTING AT A FALL SEASON THAT WE STARTED FALLING OFF.

SO NOW WE HAVE A NEW GROUP OF PARENTS THAT WERE EDUCATING THEM.

IT'S NOT GREAT, ACTUALLY, WE'RE PLAYING A JV FOOTBALL GAME OUT OF THAT SPEED.

AND BY HALFWAY THROUGH THE SECOND QUARTER, IT JUST DISAPPEARED.

SO THERE'S THINGS, CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN CONTROL, CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN.

AND IF WE WERE HOSTING THE REGION SEMI-FINALS AND BASKETBALL AGAINST

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SO THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE

[3. Consent Agenda ]

NEXT ITEM IS A CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT.

WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED ALL POSED HEARING NONE MOTION CARRIES

[4A. Virginia Public School Authority (VPSA) Bond Refunding Update - Ted Cole ]

NEXT UP IS VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY BOND REFUNDING UPDATE.

MR. COLE.

ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING.

I HOPE YOU ALL CAN HEAR ME OKAY.

YES, YES WE CAN.

OKAY, WONDERFUL.

UM, THIS IS TED COLE WITH DAVENPORT AND COMPANY.

WE SERVE AS A FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO THE COUNTY AND WE WANTED TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF A POTENTIAL REFUNDING OF SOME, UM, EXISTING SCHOOL DEBT.

THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ON THE BOARD LAST FALL MAY REMEMBER WE DID A COUPLE OF REFUNDS THROUGH THE VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL AUTHORITY.

UM, GIVEN HOW INTEREST RATES EVOLVED LAST FALL, WE WERE, UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO REFUND ALL OF THE MATURITIES OF THE 2014 BONDS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING.

AND WE'RE LOOKING TO COME BACK TO VPS, A SPRING BOND SALE TO POTENTIALLY REFUND THE REMAINING MATURITIES THAT WE DIDN'T PICK UP LAST FALL.

UM, SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE TRANSACTION WE DID LAST FALL.

UM, AND WE'RE STILL OUT STILL ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF OUT.

SO THIS IS PRELIMINARY.

UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE COUNTY TO KIND OF GET THIS SET UP TO WHERE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IF THE INTEREST RATES SUPPORT THE REFUNDING.

UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS INFORMATIONAL.

WE, WE WILL BE ASKED, WE, WE GAVE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION TO THE COUNTY BOARD YESTERDAY, INFORMATIONAL.

UM, THEY WILL CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE REFUNDING UNDER CERTAIN PARAMETERS, MEANING CERTAIN LEVEL OF SAVINGS NEED TO BE ACHIEVED IN ORDER FOR THIS TO MOVE FORWARD.

THEY WILL CONSIDER A RESOLUTION TO THAT EFFECT ON MARCH 16TH.

AND I, WE WILL ASK, UM, THE SCHOOL BOARD TO CONSIDER A SIMILAR RESOLUTION AT YOUR MEETING ON THE 17TH.

THAT JUST SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THIS REFUNDING MAY BE MOVING FORWARD, PROVIDED WE CAN MEET THE SAVINGS PARAMETERS.

AND IF THOSE, THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, THEN THE, THE BONDS WOULD BE OFFERED TO THE MARKET ON APRIL 20TH.

THAT'S THE DATE WHERE WE WILL KNOW WHETHER THE REFUNDING TOOK PLACE OR NOT.

AND AGAIN, IT WOULD ONLY MOVE FORWARD IF THE SAVINGS, UM, MEET THE PREDETERMINED PARAMETERS THAT WOULD BE IN THE BOARD'S RESOLUTION.

SO KIND OF BIG PICTURE, THAT'S THE SCHEDULE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS INFORMATIONAL.

I BELIEVE THERE'LL BE A RESOLUTION FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AT YOUR MARCH 17TH MEETING.

UM, IN MY PRESENTATION ON THE FIRST PAGE, IT'S PAGE NUMBER ONE IN THE BOTTOM CORNER, WE ARE SHOWING YOU THE ESTIMATED SAVINGS FOR THIS REEF FUNDING BASED ON INTEREST RATE.

AS OF LAST WEEK, KEEP IN MIND INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO MOVE AROUND BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL 20TH.

SO WE KINDA JUST HAVE TO RIDE WITH THE MARKET.

BUT AS WE APPROACH APRIL 20TH, WE WILL HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR WHETHER THE SAVINGS ARE VIABLE, WHETHER THE REFUNDING IS VIABLE AND WHETHER WE CAN MEET THOSE PREDETERMINED, UM, PARAMETERS.

BUT AS OF LAST WEEK, UM, WE WERE ESTIMATING ALMOST 1.5 MILLION IN TOTAL DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS, OR ABOUT 78, A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.

UM, POTENTIAL REFUNDING THAT'S ON TOP OF WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE ON ON THE FLAT FALL.

UM, WE WOULD NOT BE EXTENDING THE TERM OF THE DEBT NOR WOULD WE BE SHORTENING IT.

SO IT WOULD STILL PAY OFF IN THE SAME YEAR THAT IT'S SCHEDULED TO PAY OFF.

WE ARE SORT OF SIMPLY EXCHANGING HIGHER INTEREST RATE DEBT FOR LOWER INTEREST RATE THAT AND CREATING ANNUAL SAVINGS.

UM, THERE ARE A

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FEW OTHER SLIDES IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT GET INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT INTEREST RATES, SENSITIVITY AND INTEREST RATES MOVING UP AND DOWN AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THE SAVING ALSO GETS INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE WAIT TO DO THIS TRANSACTION, WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF BY WAITING? UM, THAT'S A REAL TOUGH QUESTION TO ANSWER BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT INTEREST RATES WILL DO.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THAT, BUT BEFORE I DO, I GUESS, LET ME PAUSE AND JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OVERALL CONCEPT OR APPROACH.

AND IF YOU ALL WOULD CARE TO GET INTO MORE OF THE DETAIL OR, OR, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS ADEQUATELY THE, THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO I'LL STOP THERE CLOSER.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, MR. COLE.

WELL, AS I SAID, WE'VE, WE'VE SHARED, UH, THE, THIS EXACT THING WITH THE COUNTY BOARD AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING AND PLAN TO PRESENT AN UPDATE TO THE COUNTY BOARD AT THEIR MEETING ON THE 16TH.

AND THEN WE'LL BE PREPARED TO DO THE SAME THING FOR YOU ALL THE NEXT NIGHT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS THAT WILL BE IN PLACE WHERE IF THE SAVINGS AREN'T AT A CERTAIN MINIMUM LEVEL, WE WON'T MOVE FORWARD SO THAT YOU ALL AREN'T FACED WITH HAVING TO DO A TRANSACTION THAT ISN'T BRINGING THE VALUE.

UM, AND WE'LL PLAN TO REVISIT THIS WITH YOU ALL, UM, ON THE 17TH, IF THAT WORKS.

THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

MR. COLE, UH, REFRESH MY MEMORY.

YOU'VE TOLD ME ONCE BEFORE THE BOND, MARKET'S NOT LIKE A MORTGAGE, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T LOCK IN IT'S THE DAY THAT YOU GO TO RELEASE THAT BOND IS THE PRICE YOU PAID, CORRECT? THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE'S A, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, DPSA WILL BE OFFERING THEIR BONDS ON APRIL 20TH.

WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOCK THAT IN BEFOREHAND.

SO WE, AS THEY'RE GETTING THEIR TRANSACTION READY TO GO, WE'RE KIND OF FLOATING WITH THE MARKET.

UM, BUT IT'S, SO IT'S NOT UNTIL APRIL 20TH THAT, EXCUSE ME, NOT UNTIL APRIL 20TH, THAT THEY WILL LOCK THE RATES.

UM, AND IF THAT'S THE POINT AT WHICH WE'LL KNOW, UM, OUR FINAL SAVINGS, BUT AGAIN, THERE IS THAT, UM, THAT, THAT PROTECTION THAT IF THE SAVINGS THAT THEY'RE, IF THE INTEREST RATES THEY'RE GETTING THAT DAY, AREN'T GENERATING THE SAVINGS WE HAVE PREDETERMINED WE NEED, THEN, UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO EXIT THE TRANSACTION WITHOUT ANY COST.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR. COLE, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

GREAT.

THANKS FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I'M GOING TO SIGN OFF.

REPORTS, SUPERINTENDENT, TALK BOUNDARY, PLEASE.

[4B. Superintendent ]

NEXT UP.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UH, THERE'S JUST A FEW THINGS I WANT TO MENTION TONIGHT.

UH, ONE, UH, MOUNTAIN IS MOUNTAIN VISTA GOVERNOR'S SCHOOL THERE.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY MOVING TO SOME IN-PERSON STUDENTS ON THE 15TH.

UM, UH, THERE, THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN OUR COUNTY, UM, BECAUSE EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE MOVING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IN-PERSON AND, AND INCREASING DAYS ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH.

SO, UH, AS OF TODAY, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET, WE HAD 37 TEACHERS ON A LIST THAT WE WERE WAITING FOR A SECOND POD TO OPEN UP.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH, UH, MR. SMITH AND MR. HERSCH TO GET THOSE, THOSE INDIVIDUALS REGISTERED TODAY SO THAT THEY WILL ACTUALLY GO RECEIVE THEIR FIRST VACCINE TOMORROW.

SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 37 TEACHERS.

AND, UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE 37 THAT WE HAVE NOW, PLUS THE ONES THAT WE HAVE, AND MR. HIRSCH, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL VACCINATED, EITHER WITH ONE SHOT OR TWO SHOTS, THAT'S PUSHING US AT 68% CLOSE TO THAT 70% MARGIN WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

SO, SO OUR NUMBERS CONTINUE TO INCREASE WITH THE NUMBER OF TEACHERS OR STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE, THAT ARE VACCINATED ALSO, RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR COVID DASHBOARD, WE HAVE SEVEN STUDENT ACTIVE CASES, AND WE HAVE ZERO STAFF ACTIVE CASES.

SO OUR NUMBERS HAVE BEEN TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND, AND MRS. SHEPHERD, SHE STAYS ON TOP OF THIS

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ON, ON A DAILY BASIS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, SHE PRESENTED LAST WEEK ABOUT THE NEW CDC GUIDELINES, OR I GUESS AT THE LAST, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND HOW WE HAD ONE INDICATOR IN ORANGE AND ONE INDICATOR IN YELLOW.

WELL, NOW BOTH OF OUR INDICATORS ARE IN YELLOW.

SO, SO OUR, OUR AVERAGE IS UNDER 50 AND OUR PERCENT POSITIVE RATE IS 5.7.

SO AS THOSE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO GO DOWN.

AND SO REALLY WHAT THAT DOES, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT SLIDE THAT SHE SHOWED YOU, THAT PUTS US IN THE CATEGORY WHERE IT'S, IT ONLY RECOMMENDS SIX FEET WHEN POSSIBLE.

SO, SO THAT GIVES A LITTLE MORE LENIENCY TO TWO SCHOOLS AND TWO TO OTHER ENTITIES.

WHEN, WHEN LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE WHATEVER SERVICE YOU NEED TO PROVIDE, UM, WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS OUR FOUR DAYS PER WEEK.

I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE CONFUSION AS FAR AS MITIGATION, AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WITH OUR MITIGATION PLAN.

UM, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON ASMR ROADS.

SO ASMR ROADS, YOU KNOW, ON MONDAY, THEY STARTED TO THE EIGHT O'CLOCK START TIME.

AND, UH, I SPOKE WITH MRS. LAYMAN TODAY, AND SHE SAID, RIGHT NOW THERE'S ABOUT 15 TO 20 STUDENTS THAT ARE USING THE AFTERCARE FROM ONE, FROM THE ONE 30 TO THE TWO 30, WHICH WAS THEIR OLD RELEASE TIME.

SHE SAID NO ISSUES.

THERE, THERE WERE ONLY TWO STUDENTS THAT NEEDED TIME, A DROP OFF TIME IN THE MORNING AT SEVEN.

AND THAT'S ONLY ON CERTAIN DAYS OF THE WEEK.

IT'S NOT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

SO SHE SAID, RIGHT NOW, THINGS WITH THEIR CHANGE HAVE BEEN GOING WELL, THERE'S BEEN NO ISSUES.

UM, AS FAR AS MAKING THAT TRANSITION FOR HER STAFF AND FOR HER STUDENTS AND EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE GOING WELL.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THE TRANSITION TO FOUR DAYS A WEEK OF IN-PERSON INSTRUCTION.

UM, OUR GOAL IS ON THE 15TH, WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT MAKING THAT THAT SAME TIME CHANGE FOR E WILSON MORRISON, BUT WE'VE BEEN CON YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR SECONDARY AND OUR ELEMENTARY TO CONTINUE TO SAY WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP OUT.

AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO THOSE PARENTS AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE PROVIDE A SERVICE AND TO HELP IN MAKING THIS TRANSITION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

[4C. School Board ]

MR. HALL.

OH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE SCHOOL'S OPENING.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING.

MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, I HAVE A GRANDSON THAT'S IN FIFTH GRADE AND LOUDON COUNTY.

HE HAS BEEN IN SCHOOL A TOTAL OF THREE OR FOUR DAYS SINCE LAST MARCH.

UM, HE ALSO HAS AN IEP, WHICH IS CONCERNING TO HIS HEAD THAT THEY'RE NOT ADDRESSING THAT.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT HE HOLD HIM BACK FOR A YEAR SO HE CAN GET CAUGHT UP.

BUT WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, AND YOU COMPARE IT TO US, WE'RE A SMALL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION STAFF OR WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

SHE'LL DO A TREMENDOUS JOB.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I WISH MY SON LIVED IN WARREN COUNTY, BUT HE DOES IT.

SO THAT'S MY SITUATION.

ALSO THE WRESTLING TEAM, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT IN THE WEIGHT ROOM CONDITIONING.

IT'S UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S AMAZING WHAT THOSE KIDS DO.

I SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING WHEN THEY WERE HERE.

I THOUGHT I'M NOT THAT GOOD SET.

ALL READY.

SO THAT'S ALL THAT HAPPENED.

UM, I GUESS I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, AGAIN, THANK EVERYONE FOR ALL THE NICE GIFTS THEY GAVE US TWO WEEKS AGO FOR BOARD APPRECIATION MONTH, BUT I'VE REALLY ENJOYED ALL OF THOSE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE DR.

PEPPER.

I KNOW DR.

BALLINDERRY MENTIONED THAT HE, UM, OPENING BACK UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE 15TH.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR SCIENCE LABS.

UM, I'LL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY DURING OUR MEETING LAST WEEK THAT MS. HOFFMAN, NEW DIRECTOR THERE, UM, REALLY COULDN'T PRAISE ALL OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENTS FOR EACH OF THOSE WHOLE DIVISIONS TO TRY TO WORK THAT SCHEDULE OUT, TO GET STUDENTS FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DIVISIONS OVER TO MOUNTAIN WHEN ALL THE DIFFERENT SCHEDULES THAT EACH OF THE SCHOOLS HAVE AT THIS POINT.

AND

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THEY DECIDED, UM, THE DOING THE SCIENCE LABS IS A WAY THAT THEY COULD GET ALL THE STUDENTS BACK.

AND BASICALLY EACH STUDENT WILL GET TO GO ALL THE TIME, UM, UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT THEY'RE EXTENDED LAB.

SO THE 10TH GRADERS WILL BE THEIR FIRST TIME THAT THEY EVER GET TO GO ON CAMPUS.

SO THAT'LL BE EXCITING FOR THEM, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE A LITTLE BIT PREPARED IN THE FALL FOR IT.

OTHERWISE, THANK YOU.

THE ACTION AGENDA APPROVAL TO REVISE A 20, 20, 20, 21 SCHOOL CALENDAR.

THANK YOU, MR. WELLS, JUST TO ADDRESS THE APPLE ISSUE JUST A LITTLE BIT, I'LL KIND OF TAKE A HIT ON THAT FOR CREDIT.

WE SORT OF KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WE, IF SHE'S GOT TURNED DOWN, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY IT HAPPENED.

AND SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS JUST A SHORT TERM MEASURE.

UM, SATURDAY, MR. CARTER FROM BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RODE AROUND AND TRIED TO SCOUT LOCATIONS.

AND, UH, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE BOUNDARY AND HE AND MR. MITCHELL ARE GONNA DO THE SAME THING.

AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH A SOLUTION BETTER AND HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH A LONG TERM SOLUTION BECAUSE OF THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE MOUNTAIN, THE BEST OPTION FOR A LONG TIME.

IT WAS JUST THE BEST WE'VE HAD.

UM, AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY, ALL THE SCHOOLS WHO PROVIDED US WITH THE, UH, BOARD APPRECIATION ITEMS, THAT KIND OF THING.

IT'S JUST, UH, JUST, HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO, TO GET THOSE OUT.

AND, UH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED TWO BALLS AND ANOTHER FIRST VACCINE DAY FRIDAY IS ALSO JOHNSON AND JOHNSON SEEMS TO BE ROLLING IN THEIR COUNTY.

THERE ARE A THOUSAND SHOTS SCHEDULED FRIDAY SCHEDULED FOR NEXT TUESDAY.

SO IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD A SHOT, I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS, AND MAYBE MITIGATE SOME OF YOUR FEARS ABOUT GETTING THE ACTUAL SHOT, AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU GET THE SHOT AND, UH, AND CONSIDERED SIGNING UP AND GETTING A SHOT, AND MAYBE WE CAN GET THIS THING.

THAT'S ALL MR. WELLS.

AND MR. WELLS, I HEARD ON THE RADIO THIS MORNING, AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR VALLEY HELL WAS GOING TO GET HIM J AND J COME THIS FRIDAY.

SO I KNEW SOMEBODY THAT WANTED IT, BUT I SENT AN EMAIL WITH SOMEBODY AT VALLEY HEALTH AND THEY SAID, LOOK, HERE'S A WEBSITE YOU NEED TO GO TO.

THEY DID.

AND THEY GOT FOR, I THINK THURSDAY.

SO IT'S THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, I THINK IS WHERE THEY SCHEDULED.

I THINK THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR THE STATE WAS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SLOW GETTING TO SANDRA.

THAT IS THE WAY TO GO STEP BACK AND LET PEOPLE SIGN UP.

BUT I GUESS THE POINT IS THE AVAILABILITY IS OUT THERE.

IF YOU WANT THE INTERVENTION OR MORE IT'S IT'S, UM, I BELIEVE MERCK AND J AND J ARE PRODUCING THEM TOGETHER.

NOW THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER.

SO THAT'S COMPETITION THAT DECIDED THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

UH, NEXT THING IS THE WRESTLING PAIN, UH, TO RETURN THAT MANY CHILDREN NEXT YEAR, WHAT THEY CAN DO NEXT YEAR.

UH, ALL THOSE YOUNG MEN ARE VERY COMMITTED.

YOU CAN TELL THEY ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM.

I MEAN, THEY DID, THEY DID A LOT AND TRYING TIMES LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

I THINK YOU SAID IT BEST MR. WALDO.

WELL, IT WAS THE MITIGATION FOR THAT.

IT'S UNREAL.

SO THAT WAS REALLY GOOD TO SEE.

UM, LAST THING IS YES, THANK ALL THE SCHOOLS FOR, FOR THE ITEMS THEY GAVE US.

I MEAN, IT WAS A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF HARD WORK THAT WAS REALLY NEAT TO ENJOY THAT.

ONE OF THEM SAID, DON'T SEE IT EVERY DAY.

OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

NEXT IS

[5A. Approval to Revise 2020-2021 School Calendar - Mrs. Sheppard ]

MS. SHEPHERD, GOOD EVENING.

LET'S SEE.

ASSAY ID REQUIRES THE LENGTH OF THE SCHOOL YEAR TO BE 180 TEACHING DAYS ARE 900 900 TEACHING HOURS FURTHER.

THE POLICY REQUIRES THE FIRST FIVE DAYS TO BE MADE UP IF INCLEMENT WEATHER RESULTS.

IN THE CLOSING OF SCHOOL, THE 2020 2021 SCHOOL CALENDAR DID NOT HAVE ANY BUILT-IN DAYS FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER.

AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE MISSED THREE DAYS DUE TO WEATHER, DECEMBER 17TH, FEBRUARY THE FIRST AND FEBRUARY 18TH, ALL OTHER INCLEMENT WEATHER DAYS WERE SCHEDULED AS VIRTUAL LEARNING DAYS DUE TO THE NUMBER OF DAYS MISSED, UM, DUE TO THE NUMBER OF DAYS AND THE NUMBER OF HOURS IN OUR

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CURRENT SCHOOL CALENDAR, WE NEED TO ADJUST OUR CALENDAR TO MAKE UP FOR THE THREE DAYS WE HAVE MISSED THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADJUST THE CALENDAR TO MAKE UP THE FOLLOWING SCHOOL DAYS, MONDAY, APRIL THE FIFTH, FRIDAY, APRIL THE 30TH AND FRIDAY, JUNE, JUNE THE 18TH.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN REGARDING MAKING UP THE THREE DAYS, BUT THERE THERE'S REALLY NO GREAT TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR TO MAKE UP THOSE DAYS.

I REACHED OUT TO THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TO SEE WHAT OPTIONS WE HAD AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS.

WE NEED TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE UP THESE DAYS AND TO MEET THE CODE SECTION 20 TWO.ONE DASH 98, 180 DAY, 990 HOUR REQUIREMENT.

WHEN WE WERE MAKING THE DECISIONS TO CLOSE SCHOOL BECAUSE OF WEATHER.

WE HAD TO TAKE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS AND OUR STAFF.

SO UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD THREE DAYS THAT WE HAD TO CLOSE SCHOOL BECAUSE WE COULDN'T OPEN OUR OFFICES.

SO WE MADE AS MANY DAYS AS WE COULD AS VIRTUAL LEARNING DAYS.

HOWEVER, WE DID HAVE TO CLOSE SCHOOL FOR THREE DAYS, BASED ON THE INFORMATION FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, WE REALLY HAVE TWO CHOICES WE CAN MAKE UP THE THREE DAYS IN PERSON ON THOSE THREE DAYS THAT I RECOMMENDED, OR WE COULD DO VIRTUAL LEARNING DAYS FOR THOSE THREE DAYS.

SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, UM, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

YES.

MA'AM.

IF WE CHOSE TO DO VIRTUAL ON THOSE DAYS, THERE IS NOT A SET GUIDELINE THAT IT HAS TO BE NEW INFORMATION TAUGHT THOSE DAYS.

LIKE IT COULD BE, YEAH, THERE IS NOT, IT COULD BE REVIEW.

IT COULD ABSOLUTELY, IT COULD BE, UM, THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS WEEKS AND IT COULD BE REVIEW OR, OR REEXAMINING INFORMATION.

SO THERE IS NOT ANY GUIDELINES ABOUT THAT.

THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT, UH, TAKING AWAY THE MONDAY AFTER EASTER THAT'S APRIL 5TH, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO WE STILL HAVE THE FIRST, HER, UM, I GUESS IT'S THE FIRST AND 2ND OF APRIL ARE STILL HOLIDAYS.

SO THAT WHOLE WEEK WOULD BE A HOLIDAY APRIL.

UM, SO IT'S VIRTUALLY A SPRINGBOARD.

IT'LL BE SPRING BREAK.

SO MARCH 29TH, 30TH, 31ST, APRIL PERSON'S SECOND IS SPRING BREAK.

AND ONE THING I FAILED TO MENTION IS THAT, UM, ON THE CALENDAR, ON THE DRAFT CALENDAR, YOU SEE JUNE 21ST IS A PROFESSIONAL DAY.

HOWEVER, IF TEACHERS ARE ABLE TO COMPLETE ALL OF THEIR WORK AND CHECK OUT, UM, THEY WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO COME BACK ON THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY.

AND IN THE PAST, SOME OF OUR PRINCIPALS HAVE ALLOW, UM, HAVE HAD SATURDAY HOURS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR TEACHERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK OUT IN CASE THEY HAVE VACATION SCHEDULED FOR THAT, FOR THAT FOLLOWING WEEK.

COULD WE DO ALL THE SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED ON WEDNESDAYS? CORRECT.

WE HAVE VIRTUAL LEARNING DAYS THAT THOSE, THOSE DAYS ARE COUNTED TOWARDS OUR 180 GOOD THOUGHT.

UH, WHAT ELSE? I WOULD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE US MAINTAIN THAT MONDAY BECAUSE OUR SPRING BREAK, AND I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LONG WAYS OUT, BUT A LOT OF PARENTS SEEM TO HAVE ALREADY MADE, MAYBE TRAVEL ON THAT DAY.

WE'LL LEAVE WITH FAMILY.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS HEARING.

THE STATE WILL HAVE TO TELL US THAT THEY WOULD GIVE US A WAIVER IF WE DIDN'T MAKE UP THOSE THREE DAYS.

RIGHT.

WHEN THAT COULDN'T BE RIGHT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, IT'S TOO SOON TO WRITE.

IT IS TOO SOON TO PUT IN A WAIVER THAT WAS ALSO IN THEIR EMAIL BACK TO ME.

SO, UM, IT COULD MAKE THE STATEMENT THAT THEY CUT OUR FUNDING FOR CHILDREN.

THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, AND IT'S SIGNIFICANT.

WE COULD NOT CHANGE ONE MORE DAY THAT THEY WANTED TO ACTUALLY BE OUT OF TOWN AND VISIT FAMILY OR FRIENDS OR WHATEVER IT IS.

I'D LIKE, I LIKE TO SOMEHOW WORK IT OUT TO WHERE THE FIFTH, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE PEOPLE HAVE MADE PLANS AND THEY WANT TO GO OUT AND, UM, AND I HATE AS MUCH AS, AS MUCH AS WE'VE HAD TO CHANGE THIS YEAR.

AS FAR AS PARENTS, TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, JUST EVERYBODY IN LIFE BECAUSE OF THE COVID-19, IT'D BE NICE IF

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UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION.

I MEAN, MY ONLY SOLUTION THEY ADD THEM ON AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND THE STATE WOULD GIVE US A WAIVER, THEN WE'RE OKAY.

IF NOT, WE'D HAVE TO DO THOSE THREE DAYS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

I MEAN, IT'S THE BOARD'S PLEASURE.

YOU GUYS HELPED ME ON THIS.

AND IT'S, IF WE DID IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THAT WOULD MAKE THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL WAS FOR KIDS.

THE 22ND.

I JUST WANT TO START BACK AUGUST 11TH.

THAT'S A SHORT SUMMER.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER GO THAT LONG.

UH, OTHER SUGGESTIONS, UM, I DON'T SEE YOUR PLAN RIGHT NOW TO HAVE IT BE IN PERSON OR AS VIRTUAL OR WE'RE NOT REALLY MAKING A COMMITMENT TO THAT ONE WAY.

YEP.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT APRIL THE FIFTH IS A VIRTUAL LEARNING DAY AND THE OTHER TWO DAYS, WHICH ONE OF THEM WAS APPLE BLOSSOM FRIDAY WOULD BE AN IN-PERSON DAY.

IT WAS A PROFESSIONAL DAY.

THAT WOULD BE AN IN-PERSON LEARNING DAY IN THE VERY LAST DAY OF SCHOOL WOULD BE AN IN-PERSON LEARNING DAY, WHICH WOULD BE JUNE THE 18TH.

THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THESE KIDS HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE BUILDING.

SO ANY MAKEUP DAYS OUGHT TO BE IN PERSON IN THE BUILDING.

WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THE BRICK AND MORTAR, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, THE SHEPHERD LAST DO SUMMER SCHOOL BETWEEN THE END OF THE YEAR TO START A SUMMER SCHOOL.

THAT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT, YEAH.

SHE PUTS THEIR 2 CENTS IN THERE'S REALLY NO GREAT SOLUTION.

GREAT SOLUTION IN MY HEART, BELIEVE THAT THESE KIDS NEED TO BE IN THE BUILDING.

I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WELL, WELL, COMING BACK ON MONDAY, THE FIFTH WOULD JUST BE CUTTING THEIR HOLIDAY BY ONE DAY.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE A FULL WEEK BEFORE THAT.

PLUS TWO WEEKENDS IN BETWEEN.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF AN INCONVENIENCE THAT WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY MADE PLANS THAT DAY HAS BEEN THE DAY THAT I'VE HEARD THE MOST CONCERN ABOUT.

THAT'S THE ONLY DAY THE APRIL 5TH DAY IS THE, THE MOST CAN TURNING DAY.

THAT WE HAVE TO MEET, AND THE GUIDANCE FROM THE STATE IS THAT YOU MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE UP THE DAYS FIRST.

MR. CHAIR.

I MEAN, W WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO HOLD THAT, THAT FIFTH, THAT MONDAY AVAILABLE, I KNOW IT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD AS COMING BACK ON A MONDAY FOR ONE DAY OF SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TYPICALLY NOT GOING TO GET A LOT OF ATTENDANCE ON THAT ONE DAY, IF YOU, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE, THE NEXT SOLUTION WOULD BE TO ADD THAT ADDITIONAL DAY ON THAT MONDAY, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO HOLD THAT MONDAY, APRIL THE FIFTH, AS, AS A, UH, AS A DAY OFF.

AND THEN THAT WOULD BE AN INSTRUCTIONAL DAY.

AND THEN THAT WOULD, YOU WOULD STILL BE ABLE THAT PROFESSIONAL DAY WOULD THEN BE MOVED TO THE 22ND.

BUT AGAIN, AS MISSISSIPPI HAD SAID THAT ON THAT LAST DAY OF TEACHERS ARE ABLE TO, TO CHECK OUT, THEY COULD CHECK.

THEY COULD, THAT WOULD BE THEIR LAST DAY, STILL ON THAT MONDAY.

BUT THE ISSUE IS THAT THE 180 DAYS

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AND THEY COULD GIVE US A WAIVER.

THEY COULD NOT GIVE US A WAIVER.

WE DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO PLAN IN CASE FOR THE LADDER THAT, THAT WON'T GIVE A WAIVER.

UM, I WOULD SAY LADY, LADY WITH THE OTHER AND MAKE THE LAST DAY, THAT WAS ONE SECOND, BUT IT WOULD ONLY BE THE TEACHERS EARLY ON 22ND, RIGHT? YEP.

STUDENTS WOULD BE THERE.

THE 21ST TEACHERS WOULD BE THERE THE 22ND IF THEY COULDN'T CHECK OUT ON THE POSSIBLE LAKERS.

WELL, NO, NO, THE T NO, SORRY.

NOTHING WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED TOGETHER.

THIS, OH, GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

WHY WAS THE, UM, THE APRIL 5TH THAT MONDAY CHOSEN THE DAY AFTER EASTER, INSTEAD OF THE ONE FOR, I GUESS JUST THE SAME REASON, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A HANGING ONE DAY AGAIN.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S A WHOLE WEEK VERSUS YEAH, RIGHT.

WELL, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ALSO CHOSE THAT MONDAY, UM, THE FIFTH, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK BACK AND I THINK MRS. SHEPHERD RESEARCH THAT SINCE, SINCE WE CAME BACK FROM SCHOOL IN JANUARY, OUR MONDAY STUDENTS HAVE MISSED HOW MANY MONDAYS, SIX OUT OF.

AND SO THAT WAS THEIR IN-PERSON DAY.

AND SO YOU HAD SIX OR SEVEN MONDAYS IN A ROW THAT THEY DID NOT GET AN IN-PERSON DAY BECAUSE OF A HOLIDAY OR BECAUSE OF A SNOW DAY, OR IT WAS A VIRTUAL CALL DAY.

SO, BUT SINCE WE'RE MOVING BACK TO FOUR DAYS, THEY WILL GET THOSE EXTRA THREE GOING FORWARD.

BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE LOOKED AT THAT MONDAY AS WELL, JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW OUR STUDENTS HAVE MISSED A LOT OF DAYS AND WE TRIED TO BUILD IT WITHIN THE CALENDAR THAT WE HAVE EXISTING.

IT ALL MAKES SENSE.

IT'S JUST TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE, I GUESS.

WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU ON THE 17TH AND LOOK AT IT A LITTLE MORE? PROBABLY THAT WOULD GIVE US WHAT TWO WEEKS BEFORE IS THAT CORRECT? LET'S SEE TWO AND A HALF WEEKS.

MAKING IT CLOSER TO THEIR PLAN.

WHAT HAVE YOU GOT PLANS? YOU'VE GOT PLANNED MR. WELLS.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES SPLITTING THESE DAYS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY ONE PERSON TO GO TO.

SO, SO MR. CHAIR, IF, IF, IF, IF YOU PUSH THAT DAY TO THE BACK AND WE DO GET THE WAIVER, THEN WE WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE WAIVER ON THAT DAY IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

RIGHT.

PURCHASE H M H INTRO LITERATURE, NINE TO 12 TEXTBOOKS AND DIGITAL ACCESS.

JUST TAKE IT AS HE IS.

I MOVED TO REVISE THE 20, 20, 20, 2021 SCHOOL CALENDAR WE APPROVED AS PRESENTED WITH MONDAY, FRIDAY, APRIL 30TH AND FRIDAY, JUNE 18TH, CHANGING THE SCHOOL.

I HAVE A SECOND ONE SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, MS. SHEPHERD APPROVAL TO

[5B. Approval to Purchase HMH Into Literature 9-12 Textbooks and Digital Access - Mr. Fox ]

MR. FOX.

GOOD EVENING.

THE PURCHASE OF THE 2020 VIRGINIA INTO LITERATURE, COMPREHENSIVE STUDENT RESOURCE PACKAGE WITH HARD COVER STUDENT EDITION PRINT FOR GRADES

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NINE THROUGH 12 WILL FINISH THE K 12 ENGLISH TEXTBOOK PURCHASE.

THE PURCHASE OF 920 PACKAGES WILL ALLOW DIGITAL ACCESS FOR SIX YEARS.

OUR CURRENT SCHEDULE WILL ALLOW OUR SCHEDULE.

NEXT YEAR WILL ALLOW TWO STUDENTS TO USE THE SAME LICENSE IN ONE YEAR.

SO IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO PURCHASE A DIGITAL LICENSE FOR EVERY STUDENT.

WE ARE THAT YOU APPROVE THE PURCHASE.

SO THESE ARE ALL DIGITAL.

THERE ARE NO HARD COPIES.

NO, THEY'RE ALSO NON HUNDRED AND 20 HARD COPIES.

SO WE, WE WILL ALLOW FOR, UH, FOUR CLASS SETS IN EACH, IN EACH GRADE.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

MR. FOX, ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING FOR MOTION? I MOVED THAT APPROVAL PURCHASE 20 VIRGINIA INTO LITERATURE, COMPREHENSIVE STUDENT RESOURCE PACKAGE WITH HARDCOVER STUDENT EDITION PRINTS, MIFFLIN HARCOURT AT A COST OF $135,766 93 CENTS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF HEARING NONE MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, MR. FOX.

ON UPDATES TO MITIGATION PLAN, MR. HIRSCH.

A REPORT

[5C. Report on Updates to Mitigation Plan - Mr. Hirsch ]

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, DR.

SUPERINTENDENT.

UM, THE MITIGATION PLAN IS, IS A FLUID DOCUMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING ON A CONSISTENT BASIS SINCE THE PANDEMIC STARTED LAST MARCH.

THIS IS ACTUALLY PHASE THREE, AND WE'RE UPDATING IT AGAIN TO REFLECT THE NEEDS OF THE DIVISION AND, AND BASICALLY REFLECT WHAT WE'RE LEARNING AS WE JOURNEY, UM, THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC TOGETHER WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR COMMUNITY, THE REASON, UM, OUR, THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE OUT DUE TO THE CORONA VIRUS IS SO LOW, UM, IS DUE TO THE STAFF AND THE STUDENTS AND THE FAMILIES FOLLOWING THE MITIGATION STRATEGIES, NOT ONLY IN SCHOOL, BUT AT HOME.

AND THOSE MITIGATION STRATEGIES ARE QUITE SIMPLE.

YOU STAY HOME WHEN YOU'RE SICK, YOU SOCIAL DISTANCE, THE RECOMMENDED SIX FEET, WHENEVER YOU CAN, YOU WASH YOUR HANDS FREQUENTLY AND YOU WEAR FACE COVERINGS WHEN YOU'RE IN PROXIMITY TO OTHER STUDENTS, THERE'S OTHER MITIGATION STRATEGIES AS WELL.

THERE'S VERY SIMPLE MITIGATION STRATEGIES.

AND THESE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE LEARNING AS WE MOVE ON ARE LAYERED.

AND WE CONTINUE NOT ONLY TO DO THE BASIC MITIGATION STRATEGIES, BUT SIMPLE ONES AS CRACKING A WINDOW ON THE BUS OR CRACKING THE WINDOWS ON THE BUS WHEN YOU'RE ON THE BUS NODDING, YOUR FACE COVERING.

SO IT'S TIGHTER INCREASE THE CLEANING AND SANITIZATION IN THE SCHOOLS INSIDE AND OUT.

WE'VE PURCHASED ADDITIONAL SPRAYERS AS YOU WELL KNOW.

AND OUR CUSTODIAL STAFF AND MAINTENANCE STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING DAY AND NIGHT TO KEEP OUR BUILDINGS CLEAN.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A ONE AND A HALF PERCENT, ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LESS IMPACT ON OUR STUDENTS.

SINCE SEPTEMBER, THE NUMBERS ARE VERY, VERY LOW AND THAT'S DUE THE GREAT THINGS THAT OUR COMMUNITY AND STAFF AND STUDENTS HAVE BEEN DOING.

SO THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE MITIGATION PLAN AND, YOU KNOW, THE VERY, YOU KNOW, VERY WELL THE MITIGATION PLAN, THE ONE BIG CHANGE NOW IS WE'VE HAD A DIVISION LEVEL.

THE THREAT ASSESSMENT TEAM CONVERTED ITSELF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC BECAUSE THIS IS A CRISIS CONVERTED ITSELF INTO A COVID 19 RESPONSE TEAM.

THAT DIVISION LEVEL TEAM WAS MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE WANTED TO EVEN GO A STEP FARTHER.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CREATED COVID RESPONSE TEAMS AT EACH BUILDING, WHICH GIVES THE SPECIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT WHO ADVISES THE SUPERINTENDENT AND ADVISES THE DIVISION LEVEL TEAM ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EACH BUILDING, THE MEASURES THAT THEY'RE TAKING, THE IMPACT THAT THOSE MEASURES HAVE THE SECOND CHANGE.

IN THE SCHOOLS AT OUR SECONDARY SCHOOLS AVAILABLE FOR ALL STUDENTS WITH PARENT CONSENT.

WE KNOW THAT THE SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL LEARNING OF STUDENTS AND STAFF HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THIS PANDEMIC.

WE HAVE A SELF CARE, UM, AND SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL LEARNING DRIVE ON OUR, ON OUR GOOGLE.

TIM PROBABLY HAS A BETTER WORD FOR THAT, BUT PARENTS, STUDENTS, STAFF CAN ACCESS THAT SELF CARE DRIVE.

AND THERE'S MANY, MANY RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN VALUE THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TO MEET THEIR SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL LEARNING NEEDS.

IN ADDITION, BECAUSE WE KNOW STUDENTS WHEN THEY COME BACK ON MARCH 15TH COULD NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AND SERVICES.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO HAVE OUTPATIENT COUNSELING AVAILABLE

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THIS IS NOTHING NEW TO WARREN COUNTY.

WE'VE HAD OUTPATIENT COUNSELING SUPPORT BEFORE, BUT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH OUR, OUR, OUR PARTNERS.

I DON'T WANT TO NAME COMPANIES, BUT THEY'RE COMING IN AND SUPPORTING US WITH, UH, OUTPATIENT COUNSELORS TO PROVIDE FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS.

THEY ONLY TAKE, THEY ALSO TAKE MEDICAID, THEY TAKE MEDICAID AND THEY ALSO TAKE PRIVATE INSURANCE.

SO NO STUDENTS SHOULD BE LEFT OUT.

AND IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THOSE TYPES OF RESOURCES, WE'LL FIND THEM RESOURCES.

IF THEY NEED THE MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, THESE SUPPORTS WILL BEGIN MARCH 15TH IN PERSON.

AND THE TELE-HEALTH.

THE HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO SET UP SPACES AND WORKING WITH THE COUNSELORS.

SO WE'RE READY TO GO ON THE 15TH.

SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME CHANGES WITH, WITH TRANSPORTATION.

STUDENTS CAN SIT ONE PROCEED UNLESS THEY'RE SIBLINGS AND THEY LIVE TOGETHER, THEN THEY CAN SIT MORE MORTAL MORE THAN ONE PROCEED.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO LAYER THOSE STRATEGIES WHO IS BEAUTIFUL OUT AS IT WAS TODAY, THE WINDOWS WILL BE CRACKED LETTING AIR FLOW, GO THROUGH THE BUS.

THEY WILL WEAR FACE COVERINGS.

AND IF THEY'RE CLOSER THAN THREE FEET, THEY'LL HAVE THE OPTION TO WEAR POSSIBLY A FACE SHIELD.

THEY CHOOSE IF THEIR PARENTS OR THE STUDENTS REQUEST ONE.

NOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONFUSION ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND, AND IN THE, IN THE, UH, IN THE PUBLIC EYE ABOUT DOUBLE MASKING, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS GIVEN BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BY DR.

FOWCHEE AND BY A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHAT WE MEAN WHAT WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS MEANS.

AND I JUST WANT TO CLAIRE THAT I'M SURE YOU ALREADY ARE WELL AWARE, BUT I WANT TO CLEAR, CLEAR IT UP FOR THE, FOR THE VIDEO CAMERA, UM, IS THE DOUBLE MASKING MEANS BOTH RECIPIENTS OF THE CONVERSATION ARE WEARING A FACE COVERING.

IT DOESN'T MEAN TWO MASKS.

SO FACE COVERINGS, OF COURSE, SHOULDN'T BE PUT ON CHILDREN UNDER TWO, AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE PUT ON STUDENTS THAT HAVE THE INABILITY TO TAKE THEM OFF, WHERE STUDENTS THAT HAVE, OR STAFF THAT HAVE TROUBLE BREATHING.

THIS IS DONE AT ALL SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE PRESCHOOLS IN THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND WE HAVE STUDENTS DEVELOPMENTALLY NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT A FACE COVERING IN ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS.

SO ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS, WE WORK WITH THOSE FAMILIES TO ENSURE THAT OTHER STRATEGIES ARE IN PLACE, SUCH AS SOCIAL DISTANCING AND HYGIENE AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO LIMIT THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.

AND AGAIN, FACE SHIELDS, ADDITIONAL FACE COVERINGS TO ALL AVAILABLE HAND SANITIZER AT PARENT OR STUDENT ROOMS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO SELF MONITOR.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO, TO, TO TAKE TEMPERATURES AS STUDENTS GO INTO THE BUILDING AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO ALL OF OUR MITIGATION STRATEGIES.

THAT BASICALLY IS THE UPDATES, UM, TO OUR, TO OUR, TO OUR PLAN.

UM, IT JUST, IT JUST MAKES COMMON SENSE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LOVE TO ANSWER THEM.

UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THE COUNSELING THAT'S BEING SET UP.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE DOING ALSO, I'M SORRY, COUNSELING, THAT WAS BEING SET UP, OR I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT, BUT I HOPE SO.

AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL WATCH THIS BROADCAST AND TAKE THAT, TAKE THAT IDEA FROM US.

ARE YOU ANTICIPATING A LOT OF NEED FOR THAT PROMPT? I HOPE WE CAN GET PAST THE STIGMA OF MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS AND PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE DOING IT IN A VERY CONFIDENTIAL MANNER.

UM, AND WHERE THE GUIDANCE DEPARTMENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF EACH BUILDING WORKS WITH THE FAMILY AND ENSURES THEIR CONFIDENTIALITY AND PRIVACY TO MEET THOSE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS.

AND AGAIN, WE CAN DO THAT TELE-HEALTH OR IN-PERSON, UM, I HOPE AS MANY PEOPLE THAT NEED IT, GET IT.

I HOPE WE DON'T NEED IT, BUT, BUT WE'RE EXCITED.

WE'RE EXCITED TO SERVE KIDS AND WE HAVE MANY OTHER SOCIAL EMOTIONAL LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES AND ACTIVITIES GOING ON IN THE BUILDINGS TO MAKE SURE OUR KIDS ARE SAFE.

THANK YOU, MR. HARRIS MITIGATION, BUT IT'S GOING BACK TO WHAT UNTIL NOW, OTHER THAN SPORTS ARE WE GOING TO, TO MY BOOKS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.