[1.A. Call to Order - Pledge of Allegiance and Moment of Silence - School Board Chair]
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IF YOU'LL PLEASE STAND TO JOIN FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[1.B. Accept or Modify the Agenda - School Board]
TO ACCEPT OR MODIFY THE AGENDA? I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED.ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
FIRST UP THIS EVENING, WE HAVE
[1.C. Instructional Spotlight]
THE INSTRUCTIONAL SPOTLIGHT, DR. WRIGHT.THIS EVENING I BELIEVE WE HAVE OUR MS. BRAGG, WE WILL INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS, WHICH I BELIEVE WE HAVE OUR AG, AG STUDENTS AND FFA SPONSOR, UM, MS. LYNN PHILLIPS WITH SOME OF HER STUDENTS THAT WILL BE PRESENTING THIS EVENING.
SO IF THEY COULD COME UP AT THIS TIME.
MS. BRAGG, IF YOU WANNA ADD ANY DETAILS? ABSOLUTELY.
TONIGHT WE WILL HAVE OUR WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL AGRICULTURAL DEPARTMENT REPORTING TO THE BOARD AND SHARING SOME OF THEIR EXPERIENCES.
YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT IN A LIVE CHICKEN, UM, AND MAYBE HE IS NOT A CHICKEN.
I'M NOT SURE
AND OUR SECOND MEETING WITH LIVESTOCK.
CHRIS JOHNSTON, THE PRINCIPAL OF WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL, TO SET UP WHAT'S GOING TO, WHAT AG DEPARTMENT'S GONNA PRESENT.
UH, GOOD EVENING SCHOOL BOARD.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE OUR AG CLASSROOM.
SO, UM, ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, MRS. PHILLIPS ASKED WHEN, UH, SHE BE ABLE TO COME SPEAK TO THE BOARD AND LIKE THE NEXT DAY I GOT THE SIGN UP FOR THE INSTRUCTIONAL SPOTLIGHT.
SO, MS. PHILLIPS GOT WHAT SHE WANTED, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY.
SO I'M GONNA TURN THE TIME OVER, UH, TO MRS. PHILLIPS AND OUR AG CLASS STUDENTS AND A SPECIAL GUEST FROM WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL.
HELLO, MY NAME IS RILEY GALVIN AND I'M FROM THE WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I'M THE WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL, FFA PRESIDENT THIS YEAR.
I'M HERE WITH MY AGRICULTURE TEACHER AND AN FFA ADVISOR.
MS. LYNN PHILLIPS, A MEMBER SAM ALLISON.
I RAISED CHICKENS AND TURKEYS HERE.
I HAVE LUCKY MY SILKY ROOSTER THAT WAS RAISED IN OUR AGRISCIENCE CLASSROOM LAST NOVEMBER.
WE LEARNED HOW TO CARE FOR THE CHICKS AT WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I SHOWED HIM AT THE WARREN COUNTY FAIR TO CARE FOR THE CH OH SORRY, THIS YEAR.
AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE.
HE GOES WITH ME TO RULE KING AND SPELUNKERS AND GETS ALL THE ATTENTION WHEREVER HE GETS.
THE VIRGINIA FFA MIDDLE SCHOOL AG EXPLORATION CAREER DEVELOPMENT EVENT WILL BE HELD AT THE VIRGINIA STATE FAIR, WHICH IS AN INTRODUCTORY CONTEST FOR NEW MEMBERS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL.
THE GOAL IS TO INTRODUCE STUDENTS TO AGRICULTURAL CONCEPTS AND TO ALLOW THEM TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN A FUN CAREER DEVELOPMENT EVENT.
THIS YEAR WE WILL BE TESTED ON AGRICULTURAL MECHANICS, PLANT SCIENCE AND FFA KNOWLEDGE.
STUDENTS WILL, WILL TAKE WHAT THEY LEARN IN CLASS, APPLY IT TO THE REAL WORLD SITUATIONS THROUGH THE CONTEST.
NOW YOU'LL EXPERIENCE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE IN THE FFA MIDDLE SCHOOL EXPLORATION CD.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO COMPLETE THIS VERY SMALL TEST.
DO I KEEP THEM?
YOU'LL HAVE FIVE TOOLS TO IDENTIFIED TWO PLANTS, AND WE WILL TEST YOUR AGRICULTURAL AND FFA KNOWLEDGE.
YOU MAY BEGIN WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE DONE WITH THE, UM, UH, THE FIRST FIVE QUESTIONS.
WE'LL SHOW YOU THE TOOLS AND PLANT A COUPLE EXTRA HERE.
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WHILE EVERYBODY'S DOING THEIR TESTS, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE THAT OUR LIVE STREAMING, UM, ISN'T WORKING, BUT OUR IT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON IT.SO HOPEFULLY, UM, THAT WILL BE UP AND RUNNING SOON.
OKAY, YOU GOT ONE MINUTE UP? YOU GOT TWO MORE MINUTES.
OKAY, SO LET'S START THE TEST.
SO ON THE BOTTOM HALF YOU HAVE A WORD BANK, AND WHENEVER THE KIDS GO TO A CONTEST, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, IT'S PROBABLY MOST OF THE CONTESTS.
WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT 150 THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO KNOW.
UM, WHETHER IT'S IDENTIFICATION OF TOOLS, UM, ANIMALS, SMALL ANIMAL CARE, THEY HAVE TO KNOW THERE'S 246 ITEMS ON THAT TEST THAT THEY HAVE TO KNOW PLUS FACTS THAT GO WITH IT.
SO WE'RE GONNA GET IT TO YOU EASY TONIGHT, RIGHT? OKAY.
ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR PAGE, YOU HAVE A WORD BANK.
OKAY? AND I WILL HAND IT HERE AND YOU GUYS CAN PASS IT DOWN IF YOU WANT TO.
DID YOU GET A GOOD LOOK PERSON? I DID
AND THIS IS SAM, WHO'S OUR SENTINEL THIS YEAR.
SO THIS IS NUMBER FOUR COMING UP.
DID WE GET SEVEN NO TIME'S UP.
OH, DID YOU GET SEVEN? WE DIDN'T GET NUMBER SEVEN.
THE POTTED PLANT SIX IS COMING.
OH, NUMBER SIX IS, WHAT IS IT? THAT'S SIX.
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SO, UH, FFA STARTED IN VIRGINIA A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.UM, EM, TIFFANY DID IN FACT WRITE THE FFA CREED.
WHICH NUMBER ONE IS TRUE NUMBER? LET'S SEE.
UM, SO IT STARTED IN VIRGINIA TECH A HUNDRED YEARS AGO BEFORE NATIONAL FFA CAME ABOUT, WHICH IS PRETTY CONFUSING.
UM, WE JUST CELEBRATED OUR HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY CONVENTION AT VIRGINIA TECH IN JUNE, WHICH, UH, RILEY GOT TO GO TO THAT.
FFA IS IN ALL 50 STATES AND THE VIRGIN ISLANDS AND PUERTO RICO.
SO, UM, NUMBER THREE IS FALSE.
UH, NUMBER FOUR, NATIONAL BLUE AND CORN GOLD ARE THE OFFICIAL FFA COLORS THAT IS TRUE AS REPRESENTED BY THE JACKET THAT BOTH SAM AND RILEY ARE WEARING.
AND FINALLY, THE AMERICAN DEGREE IS THE HIGHEST DEGREE IN FFA MEMBER CAN EARN NOT THE EXPLORATORY DEGREE, AND YOU DO NOT EARN THAT WHILE YOU'RE IN HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU HAVE TO BE OUT OF SCHOOL AT LEAST ONE YEAR, AND YOU HAVE HAD TO HAVE EARNED AT LEAST $10,000 IN YOUR ENDEAVORS, OR 2,500 HOURS OF SERVICE WORK, WHICH IS AMAZING.
IS 20, IS 20% A PASSING GRADE ON THAT FIRST SECTION? 20%.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THE BLUE RIBBON.
I DON'T WANNA
UM, SO LET'S SEE HOW YOU DID ON THE ID PORTION.
NUMBER ONE, WHICH I HOPE MOST OF Y'ALL GOT, THIS IS PHILIP SCREWDRIVER.
UM, UH, NUMBER TWO, UH, THE FLOWERS, I'M TRYING TO TRICK YOU A LITTLE BIT.
THESE ARE ZINNIAS, UH, THEY'RE NOT MARIGOLDS, BUT THEY LOOK LIKE MARIGOLDS.
UM, NUMBER THREE IS THE COMBINATION SQUARE.
AND THE KIDS USE THIS IN ORDER TO MAKE FOR SURE IF THEIR PROJECT IS SQUARED TO MAKE A 45 DEGREE ANGLE, MAKE SURE THINGS ARE LEVEL.
UM, SO THIS IS A COMBINATION SQUARE.
NUMBER FOUR IS THE TRY SQUARE.
UH, NUMBER FOUR WAS THE THING.
IT'S ACTUALLY, SO SIXTH GRADERS CANNOT USE POWER TOOLS.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE HAND TOOLS.
SO IT WILL HAVE A DRILL BIT ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
UM, BUT THIS IS A FUN TOOL FOR THEM TO GET TO LEARN TO USE.
THEY USE ALL THE HAND TOOLS, THEY HANDSAW THINGS.
THEY, UM, USE ALL OF THESE TYPES OF TOOLS IN ORDER TO MAKE FOR SURE THE PROJECTS ARE SQUARE.
SO THE NEXT ONE IS THE TRI SQUARE.
SO THIS IS FLORAL TAPE, NOT HORTICULTURAL TAPE.
UH, THIS IS WHAT THEY USE FOR LIKE ERS AND MAKING CORSAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THIS IS AN AFRICAN VIOLET.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU GOT AT LEAST ONE, RIGHT? NO.
THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN OUR MINI CONTEST.
IF YOU WERE IN THE REAL CONTEST, YOU WOULD HAVE TO KNOW AND ANSWER OVER 45 IDS, 25 QUIZ QUESTIONS, AND SOLVE FIVE PROBLEMS AND SIX AND 12 MINUTE ROTATIONS.
SIX, 12 MINUTE ROTATIONS, LIKE AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES.
YOU HAVE TO ANSWER ALL THAT AT THE VIRGINIA STATE FAIR.
I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN AN INTRODUCTION TO BLACKSMITHING AND FARRIER DAY WORKSHOP.
I'M VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE MORE CAREER OPTIONS.
WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL FFA IS HEAD PLACES WE VOLUNTEER IN OUR COMMUN COMMUNITY AND ARE WORKING ON SEVERAL COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS ON OCTOBER 4TH AT WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL.
WE ARE HOSTING THE WARREN COUNTY FFA JEEP CAR AND TRUCK SHOW.
WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT IN OCTOBER.
WE ARE HE TO THE 99TH NATIONAL FFA CONVENTION AND INDIANAPOLIS TO RECEIVE THE NATIONAL FFA CHAPTER AWARD FOR EARNING GOLD.
WE ARE PART OF THEM LESS 5% OF ALL FFA CHAPTERS TO RECEIVE THIS THROUGH A WELL-ROUNDED PROGRAM OF ACTIVITIES, WHICH IS LIKE THE CALENDAR OF EVENTS.
THE WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL MEMBERS WORKED HARD ON THE NATIONAL CHAPTER APPLICATION.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN ALLOWING US TO PARTICIPATE IN SUCH A GREAT EVENT.
WE ARE EXCITED TO REPRESENT OUR SCHOOL, OUR FFA CHAPTER, MORIN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
WE HOPE YOU ALL COME TO OUR UPCOMING EVENTS AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AGRICULTURAL EDUCATION IN OUR SCHOOLS.
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HAVE SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, GREAT SUPPORT, AND AMAZING TEACHERS SELIA SENT TO THE FUTURE.ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM? YOU GUYS GOOD? THANK YOU SO MUCH, VERY MUCH.
AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO, TO HEAD OUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE, IF YOU GUYS WANNA KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TOGETHER.
HE WAS BORN ON ELECTION DAY LAST NOVEMBER, AND I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM ONE OF OUR KIDS PARENTS SAYING, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE SOME CHICK STARTER AND SOME SUPPLIES FOR CHICKS? YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.
SHE FORGOT THE COMMA AFTER CHICK.
IT HAD A GIANT PINK TOTE WITH THIS TEENY TINY LITTLE CHICK IS ABOUT THIS BIG.
AND, UH, IT TURNS OUT THAT, UM, THE, UH, LUCKY WAS UNDER A CLUTCH OF A HEN.
AND SHE, NOTHING, AFTER 25 DAYS, NOTHING HAD PRODUCED.
SO SHE DUMPED ALL THE EGGS INTO THE COMPOST PILE AND THIS LITTLE CHICK STARTED PEEPING AND COMING OUT.
[1.D. Community Participation]
OKAY, NEXT UP THIS EVENING, WE HAVE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION.YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, AND PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND, UM, WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE FROM WHEN COMING UP TO TALK.
UM, MS. STETL, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP THIS EVENING? ASHLEY KENNY.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY KENNY, AND I'M A FIRST GRADE TEACHER AT E WILSON MORRISON.
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MANY STAFF MEMBERS TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE CONDITION MAINTENANCE, FUNDING, AND FUTURE OF OUR SCHOOL.
THE RECENT CLOSURE OF E WILSON MORRISON DUE TO SERIOUS STRUCTURAL CONCERNS, HAS UNDERSTANDABLY CAUSED SIGNIFICANT CONCERN AMONG FAMILIES, STAFF, FORMER STUDENTS, AND MEMBERS OF THE FRONT ROYAL COMMUNITY.
HOWEVER, THESE CONCERNS CANNOT BE VIEWED IN ISOLATION WHEN CONSIDERED ALONGSIDE THE 2025 ROOF ASSESSMENT, E WILSON MORRISON'S LONGSTANDING MAINTENANCE CONCERNS AND THE SCHOOL'S HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.
THERE ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE BUILDING HAS BEEN PRIORITIZED AND MAINTAINED OVER THE YEARS.
THERE IS CURRENTLY A 2025 WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL'S ROOF ASSESSMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE PUBLIC, UM, THAT HAS FINDINGS THAT DESERVE A CLEAR EXPLANATION.
THE 2025 ROOF ASSESSMENT RAISES ONE OF, UH, MANY PRIMARY CONCERNS.
THE ASSESSMENT IDENTIFIED OUR SCHOOL'S ROOF AS BEING IN FAILED CONDITION.
THE REPORT DOCUMENTED SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES AND RECOMMENDED FULL REPLACEMENT.
HOWEVER, OUR ROOF WAS NOT PRIORITIZED.
FIRST, THESE CONCERNS HAVE BECOME EVEN MORE IMPORTANT FOLLOWING THE RECENT CLOSURE OF OUR SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL CONCERNS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS CAN BE DISCOVERED UNEXPECTEDLY.
HOWEVER, WE QUESTION WHETHER THE CURRENT SITUATION SHOULD BE CHARACTERIZED AS COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED, GIVEN THE LONGSTANDING CONCERNS REGARDING THE AGE, CONDITION, AND MAINTENANCE OF OUR SCHOOL.
THE ROOF ASSESSMENT ALONE DEMONSTRATES THAT AT LEAST ONE MAJOR COMPONENT OF THE BUILDING HAS ALREADY BEEN PROFESSIONALLY DOCUMENTED AS BEING IN A FAILED CONDITION.
NOT FAIR, NOT POOR, BUT FAILED.
WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER OUR SCHOOL HAS HISTORICALLY RECEIVED THE SAME LEVEL OF INVESTMENT AS OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY.
THERE HAS BEEN A PERCEPTION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT OUR SCHOOL HAS FREQUENTLY REVISED, OR I'M SORRY, HAS FREQUENTLY RECEIVED, USED, TRANSFERRED, OR REPURPOSED MATERIALS FROM OTHER SCHOOLS, RATHER THAN RECEIVING COMPARABLE, COMPARABLE INVESTMENTS IN NEW MATERIALS AND IMPROVEMENTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, OUR GYM DOORS CURRENTLY WERE TO OUR UNDERSTANDING PREVIOUSLY USED AT ANOTHER SCHOOL AND THEN TRANSFERRED TO US.
THE DOORS DO NOT APPEAR TO FIT THE EXISTING OPENINGS PROPERLY, LEAVING LARGE GAPS AT THE BOTTOM.
WHILE THIS MAY SEEM LIKE A RELATIVELY SMALL ISSUE COMPARED WITH THE CURRENT STRUCTURAL CONCERNS, IT CONTRIBUTES TO A LARGER QUESTION.
WHY DOES OUR SCHOOL SO OFTEN APPEAR TO RECEIVE ITEMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN USED ELSEWHERE, RATHER THAN RECEIVING THE SAME LEVEL OF INVESTMENT AS OTHER SCHOOLS? THERE ARE MANY OTHER EXAMPLES AS WELL.
WE RECEIVED SECONDHAND SMART BOARDS AFTER ANOTHER SCHOOL RECEIVED A TECHNOLOGY UPGRADE.
IN ADDITION, CARPET WAS REMOVED FROM SEVERAL CLASSROOMS AND REPLACED WITH FLOORING LEFTOVER FROM, AGAIN, ANOTHER RENOVATION PROG PRO PROJECT AT ANOTHER SCHOOL.
IN ONE CLASSROOM, THE FLOORING INSTALLATION WAS ONLY PARTIALLY COMPLETED BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH MATERIAL TO FINISH THE ROOM.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT MATERIAL SHOULD NEVER BE REUSED.
WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT E WILSON HAS HISTORICALLY RECEIVED EQUITABLE TREAT, OR WE'RE ASKING WHETHER OR NOT E WILSON HAS HISTORICALLY RECEIVED EQUITABLE TREATMENT WHEN IT COMES TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, MAINTENANCE TECHNOLOGY, RENOVATIONS, AND OVERALL FACILITY INVESTMENT.
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT RECENT INVESTMENT INVOLVING OUR SCHOOL WAS THE CONVERSION OF THE AUDITORIUM INTO
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A GYM.YET ONLY THREE YEARS AFTER THAT PROJECT, THE GYM HAS EXPERIENCED LEAKS, CHIPPING PAINT, AND THE PEELING OF NEW FLOORING.
THIS RAISES ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE QUALITY AND LONGEVITY OF THE WORK COMPLETED DURING THAT RENOVATION AND WHETHER ADEQUATE MEASURES WERE TAKEN TO ADDRESS THE BUILDING'S UNDERLYING ISSUE.
THERE IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT I BELIEVE MUST BE INCLUDED IN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR FUTURE.
OUR SCHOOL IS A CONTRIBUTING HISTORIC RESOURCE WITHIN THE FRONT ROYAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THE SCHOOL WAS CONSTRUCTED IN MULTIPLE PHASES, BEGINNING WITH THE ORIGINAL SECTION IN 1935, AND IS IDENTIFIED AS A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE WITHIN OUR DISTRICT.
THE FRONT ROYAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS LISTED ON BOTH THE VIRGINIA LANDMARKS REGISTER AND THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
THIS IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE E WILSON MORRISON IS NOT SIMPLY AN AGING SCHOOL BUILDING THAT CAN BE EVALUATED SOLELY ON THE COST OF REPLACEMENT.
IT IS PART OF OUR TOWN'S ARCHITECTURAL AND COMMUNITY HISTORY.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT THE COUNTY INVESTIGATE EVERY AVAILABLE FUNDING MECHANISM BEFORE DETERMINING THAT E WILSON MORRISON IS TOO EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR OR PRESERVE.
THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION'S SCHOOL CONSTRUCTIVE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM PROVIDES COMPETITIVE GRANTS FOR QUALIFYING PUBLIC SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION AND MAJOR MODERNIZATION AND RENOVATION PROJECTS.
THE PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY CONSIDERS FACTORS INCLUDING POOR BUILDING CONDITIONS AND THE SCHOOL'S DIVISIONS DEMONSTRATED NEED AND ABILITY TO FUND THE PROJECT LOCALLY.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO KNOW THAT THE, AND NOT JUST ME, MY STAFF AND MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO KNOW THAT THE DECISION REGARDING OUR SCHOOL'S FUTURE WILL NOT SIMPLY COME DOWN TO THE COST ALONE.
OUR SCHOOL HAS SERVED GENERATIONS OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
IT'S NOT SIMPLY AN OLD BUILDING.
IT IS PART OF FRONT ROYAL'S HISTORY AND A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE WITHIN A NATIONALLY AND STATE RECOGNIZED HISTORIC DISTRICT.
OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF DESERVE A SAFE SCHOOL.
LASTLY, OUR SCHOOL'S COMMUNITY ALSO DESERVES TO KNOW THAT EVERY REASONABLE OPTION TO REPAIR, PRESERVE, AND RESPONSIBLY INVEST IN THIS HISTORIC SCHOOL HAS BEEN EXPLORED BEFORE THE COUNTY DETERMINES ITS FUTURE.
AND I ALSO WANT TO SIDE NOTE FROM MY OWN PERSPECTIVE, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT AS SOMEONE WHO HAS GROWN UP HERE AND HAS ALWAYS KNOWN E WILSON TO BE THE UNDERFUNDED, NEGLECTED SCHOOL OF THE COUNTY, THAT THAT CHANGES.
NOW OUR STUDENTS DESERVE TO LEARN WITH THE SAME AMENITIES AS THE OTHER STUDENTS IN THIS DISTRICT.
AND WE DO NOT HAVE THAT AT EAGLESON.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? YOU CAN, YOU CAN SPEAK WITHOUT SIGNING UP.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE I I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP.
IF YOU, YOU WOULD SIGN JUST FOR A RECORD WHEN YOU GO.
UH, I JUST WROTE A LITTLE POEM 'CAUSE I'M SO FRUSTRATED THAT I COULDN'T SAY WHAT I REALLY WANNA SAY.
I WASN'T SURE IF THEY WOULD ALLOW ME TO COME HERE TODAY, BUT I'M GLAD THEY DID.
I HAVE THE SAME TO SAY OF LAST SATURDAY WHEN MY EYES COULD SEE JUST HOW BAD IT IS.
I A SCHOOL CRUMBLING FROM A LIFE OF NEGLECT.
WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT A MOTTO BUILT ON SAFETY, KINDNESS AND RESPECT AFTER THIS EXPERIENCE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S LEFT.
THIS COMMUNITY DESERVES ANSWERS.
OUR CHILDREN DESERVE EVEN MORE AND SHOULD GET NOTHING LESS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISSUE IS STRUCTURAL, BUT WHAT IS HIDDEN IN THE REST? PLEASE LOOK INTO THE VERY POSSIBLE ISSUES OF MOLD LED ASBESTOS, OTHER CONTAMINANTS RESIDING ON THE SCHOOL PREMISES, NOT JUST THE BUILDING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? MOVING ON, WE
[2. Consent Agenda]
HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
[3.A. Superintendent]
UP THIS EVENING, WE HAVE REPORTS.I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS THIS EVENING.
UH, FIRST I WANNA THANK, UH, DR. JOHNSON AND MS. PHILLIPS AND LUCKY AND, UM, AND THE STUDENTS THAT WERE HERE, UH, THIS EVENING TO PRESENT.
UH, WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT, UH, THAT THEY DO WITH OUR AG DEPARTMENT AT WARREN COUNTY MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND, UH, THE WORK THAT MS. PHILLIPS DOES, TAKING THESE KIDS ALL OVER
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THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING, I THINK A TRIP TO CHICAGO COMING UP, I BELIEVE ILLINOIS, SOMEWHERE FAR AWAY, UM, BRAVER THAN I AM.SO, UH, AND, UH, I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THEN RECENTLY, UH, GOING TO STATE CONVENTION AT AT TECH AS WELL.
SO, UM, I DO WANNA THANK OUR COMMUNITY PARTICIPANTS FOR, FOR SPEAKING, UH, THIS EVENING AND FOR YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK, MS. KENNY.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND, UH, I HAVE SOME OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT, ABOUT THAT, BUT I DO, UH, APPRECIATE THAT MR. MARKEY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL, SO, UH, IN THE CREATIVE WAY THAT YOU SHARED THOSE.
UM, AND I DO ENCOURAGE, UH, PARTICIPATION FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, UH, ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR THINGS REGARDING OUR SCHOOLS.
WE WANT TO HEAR, AND I WANT TO HEAR, AND OUR BOARD WANTS TO HEAR FEEDBACK, UH, NOT ONLY REGARDING E WILSON, BUT ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE, WE WELCOME, WE WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK, YOU WELCOME YOUR COMMUNICATION.
SO, UH, I DO WANT A NOTE THAT THE, SINCE OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, WE, THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING SINCE STARTING SCHOOL.
SO, AND WE DID HAVE A WONDERFUL START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS A LONG, LONG, LONG TIME AGO, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN A FEW WEEKS.
UH, WE HAD, UH, A FA A VERY ENGAGING NEW TEACHER WEEK, WHICH I GOT TO PARTICIPATE SOME IN.
UH, AND SO I APPRECIATE OUR, UH, OUR INSTRUCTIONAL RESOURCE TEAM COORDINATING THAT EFFORT.
AND I REALLY, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST, UH, WELL DONE AND ENGAGING, UH, NEW TEACHER WEEKS.
THEY'RE USUALLY PRETTY BORING AND, UH, AND A LOT OF INFORMATION.
AND, AND WE DO A REALLY NICE JOB OF, OF MAKING IT INTERESTING AND BRINGING IN LOTS OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
AND, AND I THINK OUR NEW TEACHERS GOING THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY LEAVE AFTER THAT WEEK, INSTEAD OF BEING EXHAUSTED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY TIRED, THEY'RE EXCITED, UH, ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT THAT THEY HAVE, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'VE CHOSE TO TEACH IN.
WE ALSO HAD A, A REALLY GOOD, UH, WORK WEEK, WHICH IS NOT AS EXCITING 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO WHEN THE, THE, UH, VETERAN TEACHERS RETURN.
UH, BUT IT WAS A SOLID WEEK CAPPED OFF BY A REALLY FUN CONVOCATION WITH A, A MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER WITH MR, WITH DR. TAYLOR, WHO I THINK EVERYONE ENJOYED.
WE HAD SEVERAL COMMUNITY LEADERS PARTICIPATING IN OUR CONVOCATION, AND IT WAS JUST A GREAT TIME TO COME TOGETHER AS A, AS A, AS A WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL STAFF AND COMMUNITY UNDER ONE ROOF.
SO I APPRECIATE ALL THOSE THAT WERE ABLE TO COME AND PARTICIPATE.
IT WAS A, A GREAT EVENT AND A GREAT START.
UH, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS WELL UNDERWAY AT THIS POINT.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, UH, TO GAIN FEEDBACK AND INSIGHT FROM OUR COMMUNITY.
PART OF WHAT I WAS DOING IN MEETING WITH OUR, UM, DIFFERENT, UH, UH, SUPERINTENDENT ADVISORY GROUPS FROM STUDENTS AND FAMILIES AND, AND, UH, FROM STAFF WAS GAINING SOME OF THAT IDEAS ABOUT OUR VISION AND OUR MISSION FOR THE FUTURE.
SO, UH, WE ARE, WE ARE WELL UNDERWAY.
WE HAD ANOTHER MEETING RIGHT AFTER CONVOCATION WITH DR. TAYLOR, OUR BOARD, AND SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL, AND, AND GOT EVEN MORE FEEDBACK.
UH, WE HOPE TO PROVIDE SORT OF A FIRST READING TO OUR SCHOOL BOARD, UH, AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN OCTOBER.
UH, WE HAVE LAUNCHED OUR WEEKLY STAFF NEWSLETTER, SO THAT WAS ONE OF OUR GOALS AND A MONTHLY COMMUNITY NEWSLETTER.
SO WE'VE HAD, UH, A FEW MONTHS OF STAFF NEWSLETTERS, UH, THAT HOPEFULLY, UH, IS HELPING KEEP OUR STAFF MORE INFORMED.
AND THE COMMUNITY NEWSLETTER WILL, WILL GO OUT THIS FRIDAY.
THAT WILL BE OUR SECOND EDITION.
SO WE HAD ONE IN AUGUST AND THIS SEPTEMBER ISSUE WILL COME OUT THIS FRIDAY.
UH, REGARDING E WILSON, I DID WANT, UH, TO THANK THE CONTINUOUS SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY AGENCIES THAT WE HAVE HAD SINCE LAST SATURDAY.
UH, THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL SUPPORTERS FOR YOUR GENEROSITY, UH, ESPECIALLY REACHING OUT NOW, WHO WAS COORDINATING THE RE RELIEF EFFORT ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOLS.
'CAUSE HONESTLY, WE COULD NOT, UH, WE DID NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO, TO MANAGE THAT WITH THE OUTPOURING OF, OF DONATIONS THAT WERE COMING IN.
SO I APPRECIATE REACHING OUT NOW, TAKING THAT ON.
AND IF YOU DO STILL WANT TO DONATE ITEMS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO THEM.
THEY HAVE A LIST OF SPECIFICALLY WHAT THINGS ARE NEEDED, UH, AT THIS TIME.
UH, I APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY OF OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, THE E WILSON STAFF, UH, AND THE ADMINISTRATION HELPED GET US, GET THE STUDENTS RELOCATED TO THEIR SATELLITE SCHOOLS ONLY FIVE DAYS AFTER HEARING WE WOULD NEED TO CLOSE THE BUILDING.
UH, THIS WAS A TEAM EFFORT THAT INCLUDED INPUT FROM MANY
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STAFF MEMBERS FROM BOTH E WILSON AS WELL AS STAFF MEMBERS, UH, FROM THE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT ARE THE HOST SITES.WE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH THE DIFFERENT, UH, IMPACTED, UH, PRINCIPALS, UH, AT THE VARIOUS SCHOOLS.
AND WE GOT A LOT OF REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM NOT ONLY OUR E WILSON STAFF, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE PRINCIPALS AND STAFF AT OTHER SCHOOLS.
UH, I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO OUR E WILSON FAMILIES WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED SIGNIFICANT FLEXIBILITY, PATIENCE, UNDERSTANDING DURING THESE RECENT CHANGES.
UH, LASTLY, I WANNA THANK OUR HOST SCHOOLS, THEIR ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS, STAFF, AND STUDENTS WHO HAVE WELCOMED THE E WILSON STUDENTS AND STAFF WITH OPEN ARMS. AND WHAT I AM LEARNING IS JUST THE WARREN COUNTY WAY.
UM, MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT REGARDING E WILSON IS THAT, UH, WHILE WE HAVE DISCOVERED SOME BENEFITS OF HAVING STUDENTS DIVIDED AMONG THE THREE OTHER SCHOOLS, UM, AND WHILE WE ARE MAKING THE BEST OF IT, THE DIFFICULTIES AND COMPLEXITIES FAR OUTWEIGH SOME OF THE POSITIVE THINGS, SUCH AS, UH, SOME OF THE COOL THINGS ARE HAVING, ESPECIALLY THE HIGH SCHOOLS, SOME COOL RELATIONSHIPS AND SOME UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO, UH, SOCIALIZE WITH, WITH THE OLDER STUDENTS.
UH, AND THAT THAT'S SORT OF, UH, SORT OF A BIG BROTHER TYPE THING, OR POTENTIAL READING PALS.
BUT, UM, THOSE THINGS ARE POSITIVE, BUT THAT WE KNOW WE'RE TAKING A REALLY POSITIVE OUTLOOK AT IT.
BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFICULTIES AND, AND A LOT OF THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES, IT STILL NEED TO BE WORKED OUT.
UH, SO IT IS, UM, WHILE WE ARE MAKING THE BEST OF IT, IS DEFINITELY, UH, A CHALLENGE.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR OUR STUDENTS.
UH, I THINK THE NOVELTY PROBABLY STARTING TO WEAR OFF BY NOW.
AND WE REALIZE WE'RE BACK IN SCHOOL AND, UH, ALTHOUGH WE CHANGED LOCATIONS, THEY DEFINITELY WANT TO GO BACK TO E WILSON AND SO DO OUR TEACHERS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AS THEM TOGETHER AGAIN.
SO, UM, SO I THINK AS WE LOOK FORWARD FOR POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS, I'M HOPEFUL FOR A RESOLUTION THAT BRINGS E WILSON TOGETHER UNDER ONE ROOF, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, AND I THINK WE'LL HEAR SOME INFORMATION TONIGHT.
I KNOW YOU ALL WANT TO HEAR, UM, FROM, FROM THE EXPERTS IN THE ROOM.
BUT I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT WORK? BECAUSE HAVING THEM SPLINTERED IN THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE SCHOOL.
IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE STUDENTS.
IT'S, THEY'RE NOT REALLY A SCHOOL ANYMORE.
SO IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S TAKING A TOLL ON, ON FOLKS.
SO WE WANT TO GET THEM BACK TOGETHER SO THEY CAN DO, THEY CAN BE A SCHOOL.
UH, AND THEN, UM, THE THINKING ABOUT THAT HAVE, HAVE LOTS OF IDEAS.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.
BUT FOR NOW, I'M GONNA KEEP THOSE TO MYSELF.
UH, LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO KNOW THAT I WILL BE WORKING WITH DR.
COSTNER AND THE COUNTY PROCUREMENT OFFICE TO PUT OUT AN RFI REQUEST FOR INFORMATION TO DETERMINE COST POTENTIAL TIMELINE FOR A FACILITY CAPACITY AND GROWTH FEASIBILITY STUDY TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO PROGRAM CAPACITY AND SPACE UTILIZATION ANALYSIS, MUNICIPAL GROWTH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND REZONING IMPACT, E WILSON MORRISON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL EVALUATION, AND CTE EXPANSION AND SHARED BUILDING UTILIZATION.
ONCE THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN GATHERED, I'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD, UH, AT ANOTHER MEETING SEEKING FEEDBACK REGARDING THE SCOPE OF A POTENTIAL STUDY, THE ANTICIPATED COST BASED ON THE RFI AND THE TIMELINE IN ORDER TO INITIATE AN RFP, UH, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL REGARDING A FEASIBILITY STUDY, JUST TO GIVE US SOME IDEAS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR DIVISION, THE STATE OF OUR SCHOOLS, THE CAPACITY OF OUR SCHOOLS, SOME OF OUR OTHER BUILDINGS, OUR CAREER AND TECH, UH, FOCUS AND POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF THAT.
UH, AT LEAST IT GIVES US A STARTING POINT.
UM, BUT, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA COST.
SO FOR NOW, I'M JUST GONNA PURSUE AN RFI TO SEE, GET SOME INFORMATION.
I'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN A COUPLE WEEKS WITH, WITH A MORE, UH, DETAILED OUTLINE OF WHAT THE RFE WOULD LOOK LIKE, THE COST, AND THEN, UH, A PROPOSAL IF YOU WANNA PURSUE THAT, AND WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS FOR THIS EVENING.
[3.B. School Board]
UM, BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND REPORTS.UM, I TOO ATTENDED THE CONVOCATION AND THE, UM, SEMINAR AFTERWARDS, AND THEN HAD THE, HAD THE PLEASURE OF GETTING TO ATTEND SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE SECOND BACK TO SCHOOL FOR THE E WILSON MORRISON.
EVERYBODY, I WAS PLEASED TO SEE EVERYBODY WAS IN GOOD SPIRITS AND, AND WE WERE ALL WORKING ON THE SAME TEAM TO MAKE THE BEST OUT OF A BAD SITUATION.
UM, AND THEN MONDAY, I GOT TO SPEND SOME TIME UP AT THE SCHOOL BOARD OFFICE, UM, REVIEWING
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BLUEPRINTS, BUT FOR ABOUT THE LAST A HUNDRED YEARS.SO, UM, AND I'LL HOLD ALL OF MY COMMENTS ABOUT E WILSON UNTIL AFTER WE'VE HAD THE PRESENTATION AND WE HAVE BOARD DISCUSSION.
UM, I JUST WANNA THANK, UH, ALL OF THE E WILSON STAFF, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF YOU HERE TONIGHT.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS A REALLY DIFFICULT SITUATION.
UM, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT, I WAS FLOORED.
I HAD NO IDEA HOW WE WOULD PULL THIS TOGETHER.
BUT I DO WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU, DR. WRIGHT AND HIS CABINET.
UM, MS. KNOX AND THE ADMINISTRATION AT E WILSON MORRISON, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB PULLING IT TOGETHER AS QUICKLY AS YOU DID.
I WAS AT WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE BACK TO SCHOOL ORIENTATION NIGHT.
AND, UM, WE HAD SOME NERVOUS PARENTS COMING IN, BUT EVERYBODY LEFT WITH SMILES ON THEIR FACES.
THE KIDS SEEMED REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BEING HIGH SCHOOLERS.
AND, UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS A, A GOOD NOTE TO COME OUT OF THAT.
UM, BUT I WAS AMAZED AT HOW THE TEACHERS BROUGHT THEIR CLASSROOMS TOGETHER.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD JUST ORGANIZED CLASSROOMS AND DECORATED AND PREPARED FOR YOUR STUDENTS, UH, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE SO THAT OUR KIDS COULD GET BACK IN THE CLASSROOMS AND GET BACK TO LEARNING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT OUR TOP PRIORITY, ESPECIALLY MY TOP PRIORITY IS STUDENT AND STAFF SAFETY.
SO JUST KNOW THAT NO DECISION WE WILL MAKE WILL, WE WILL MAKE, WE WILL NOT MAKE ANY DECISIONS LIGHTLY.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A QUICK DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
SO IT'S GONNA, IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS, LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS ARE GONNA TAKE PLACE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE DECISIONS, UM, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES FOR THE STUDENTS AND ALL OF THE TEACHERS.
UM, ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, I WAS AT THE FAMILY LIFE EDUCATION REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, THAT WAS COMPRISED OF SCHOOL STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
WE'VE, UM, SPENT THE LAST TWO WEEKS BEFORE THAT, UH, LOOKING OVER THE CURRICULUM AND MAKING NOTES.
WE MADE A FEW TWEAKS AND CHANGES.
UH, SO LOOK FOR THAT TO COME OUT.
IT'LL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW FOR 30 DAYS, PROBABLY NEXT WEEK.
UM, AND THEN AFTER THOSE 30 DAYS, IT'LL BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD FOR US TO APPROVE.
SO JUST LOOK FOR THAT ON OUR WEBSITE.
I ECHO WHAT THEY ALL SAID ABOUT THE EAGLE MORRISON SITUATION.
UH, I, I WAS, IT'S, IT ALL SORT HAPPENED ON THE WEEKEND.
WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, AND IT WAS, I, I, I APPLAUD THE, EVERYONE COMING TOGETHER TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS TO, TO MAKE THE, THE BEST OF A BAD SITUATION.
I DO THINK WE'RE ALL GONNA BE VERY EXCITED ABOUT HEARING PRESENTATION TONIGHT ABOUT SOME SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT, WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED OR WHAT IS HAPPENING AND, AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT.
UM, WE GOT A, WE GOT A REVIEW OF THE REPORT.
IT'S, IT'S MAYBE NOT AS BAD AS SOME PEOPLE THINK.
SO WE'LL BE INTERESTED TO HEAR THAT.
UM, I ALSO, WITH THE CONVOCATION AND, UH, MR. GREG AND, AND MILLER, THEY'RE KIND OF CRAZY, BUT THEY, THEY LED THE CONVOCATION VERY WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY HAVE SO MUCH ENERGY.
UM, I WANNA THANK REACHING OUT NOW FOR ORGANIZING THE SCHOOL SUPPLIES AND ALSO HAVING THE COMMUNITY DAY THEY HAD THERE.
AND, UM, THE, THE HAIRCUTS THAT WERE OUT GIVEN 103 HAIRCUTS WERE FREE FOR THE KIDS.
THE WATER IS PRETTY GNARLY BY THE END OF THE SESSION, BUT IT WAS A HOT DAY.
WERE YOU IN THERE, GEORGE? YES.
ANYWAY, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A GOOD DAY FOR THERE.
I WAS, I WAS TELLING THE KIDS, I'M A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER.
DON'T, DON'T KNOCK ME IN THERE.
ANYWAY, UM, AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
I'D LIKE TO JUST START BY SAYING, UM, WHAT THE, UH, CENTRAL STAFF AND THE STAFF AT E WILSON, UH, THE TEACHERS AND, AND EVEN THE STUDENTS, WHAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH IS, HAS BEEN TRAUMATIC, UH, TO SAY THE LEAST.
BUT WHAT THEY PUT TOGETHER AS QUICK AS THEY PUT IT TOGETHER FOR ME WAS PRETTY MIRACULOUS.
THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS A QUICK TURNAROUND.
I KNOW IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT AT THE TIME, IT GOT, IT, GOT THE KIDS BACK INTO THE SCHOOL, BACK INTO LEARNING, TRY TO KEEP 'EM IN THE ROUTINE.
AND, UM, WE HAVE A LOT TO, WE HAVE A LOT TO WORK OUT FROM HERE TILL SO TIME.
BUT, UM, THE, UH, I DID ATTEND THE CONVOCATION.
HE WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST I'VE, I'VE HEARD.
UM, I WENT TO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING AFTER,
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UM, THOSE WORKED OUT REALLY GOOD.WE NOW HAVE SOME OTHER STUFF TO ADD TO STRATEGIC PLANNING.
SO, UM, I ATTENDED THE CAC MEETING ON AUGUST 17TH.
UM, ATTENDED THE, UH, STAFF MEETING WITH THE E WILSON MORRISON TEACHERS.
AND, UM, I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH FOR OUR TEACHERS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE PHENOMENAL.
THE ROOMS WERE ALL PUT TOGETHER.
UH, IT WAS JUST A, IT WAS JUST A GREAT THING TO SEE AND HOW EVERYBODY CAME TOGETHER AND, AND MADE THAT WORK.
UM, I DID, UH, I DID ATTEND THE, UH, MEETING WITH THE ENGINEER AND, UH, WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE, UM, CONVERSATIONS, WHICH I'M GONNA KEEP THOSE COMMENTS TILL AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
UM, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK DR. WRIGHT ALSO FOR THE, UH, SUGGESTION OF THE STUDY.
I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'LL MOVE US PROBABLY WHERE WE, WE REALLY OUGHT TO BE.
BUT, UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.
UM, I WANT TO THANK OUR FFA AND AG TEACHER AND STUDENTS FOR COMING THIS EVENING.
UM, I WOULD LOVE IT IF EVERY MEETING COULD HAVE BOTH KIDS AND ANIMALS ATTEND.
UM, I THINK THAT MAKES IT MORE FUN.
AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE FROM E WILSON THAT'S HERE TONIGHT.
AND I'M SURE LISTENING FROM, FROM HOME AS WELL.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, UM, GRATITUDE WISE THAT I CAN ADD FOR ANYONE.
I THINK I'D ALSO ASK THAT WE, UM, KEEP ALL OF OUR NURSING STAFF AND THEIR THOUGHTS, UM, AS THIS TRANSITION WITH THEM GETTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF LITTLES INTO THEIR SECONDARY BUILDINGS ON TOP OF THE KIDS THAT THEY WERE ALREADY TAKING CARE OF.
UM, I'M SURE THERE'RE ANOTHER GROUP THAT'S ALSO VERY TAXED WITH THIS, UM, ENTIRE TRANSITION.
I ATTENDED THE SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL OPEN HOUSE, UM, WITH MISS SALEMS THAT NIGHT, AND KIND OF THE SAME, LIKE THE ROOMS THAT CAME TOGETHER SO QUICKLY.
AND THE FAMILIES JUST ALL SEEMED, YOU KNOW, REALLY AGAIN, TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF, OF THE ABSOLUTE WORST SITUATION.
I WENT THERE KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE.
I ACTUALLY SAW MY KINDERGARTEN TEACHER'S DOG TODAY.
SO LIKE
UM, I ALSO, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME E WILSON MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT, I WAS SENT THIS PRAYER FROM A NEW MINISTER IN TOWN.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT CHURCH IT'S FROM, BUT I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU ALL.
UM, IT'S JACOB AS GRAYLING AND THE, IT WAS, WE PRAY ESPECIALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY OF E WILSON MORRISON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DURING THIS TEMPORARY CLOSURE, WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE TEACHERS, STAFF MEMBERS AND ADMINISTRATORS PAST AND PRESENT WHO HAVE POURED THEIR WISDOM, PATIENCE, AND CARE INTO GENEROUS GENERATIONS OF CHILDREN.
WE PRAY FOR THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES FOR WHOM THIS SCHOOL IS A PLACE OF LEARNING, BELONGING, FRIENDSHIP, AND MEMORY.
HOLD THEM IN THE UNCERTAINTY OF WAITING.
AS DECISIONS ARE CONSIDERED AND MADE, GIVE WISDOM, PATIENCE, AND COMPASSION TO ALL WHO CARRY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SCHOOL'S FUTURE.
HELP US LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THOSE WHO THOSE MOST AFFECTED AND REMAIN HOPEFUL AND ATTENTIVE TO WHAT THE SEASON MAY MEAN FOR THEM AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH EVERY DECISION AND TRANSITION, MAY EACH CHILD CONTINUE TO BE KNOWN, SUPPORTED, AND GIVEN ROOM TO FLOURISH.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL BECAUSE THAT WAS SHARED AT A SERVICE ON SUNDAY.
AND SO I THINK IT JUST SPEAKS AGAIN TO OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW EVERYONE IS, IS THINKING ABOUT YOU ALL AND SUPPORTING YOU ALL THROUGH THIS.
AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THIS EVENING.
[3.C. Presentation of 2025-2026 SOL Test Results - Ms. Bragg]
THE PRESENTATION OF THE 20 25 26 SOL TEST RESULTS.I HAVE WITH ME, UH, THIS EVENING MS. DARCY CUP.
DARCY IS, UH, OUR NEW TESTING COORDINATOR.
SO YOU'RE USED TO DENISE WALTON AND I STANDING HERE GIVING THESE PRESENTATIONS.
AND NOW IT'S DARCY AND I TAKING OVER, UH, THAT, THAT REIGN.
SO WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT ABOUT THE SOL PASS RATES.
THESE TEST RESULTS WERE RELEASED LAST TUESDAY FROM THE, UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
THIS IS ONLY THE SOL PASS RATE.
THIS IS NOT THE LARGER ACCOUNTABILITY SCORE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKES UP A, A, A NUMBER OF THINGS WITH ACCREDITATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT SORT OF THING.
THIS IS JUST THE SOL PASS RATES.
YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THIS GRAPH THAT I'VE SHOWN A FEW TIMES ABOUT THE NEW, UM, ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM.
WE CONTINUE TO, UH, USE THIS NEW SYSTEM.
THE SOL PASS RATES MAKE UP THE MASTERY PORTION OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
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AND YOU'LL SEE THAT MASTERY, UH, HAS SOME CHANGE IN THE PERCENTAGE FROM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO MIDDLE AND INTO HIGH SCHOOL.BUT THAT IS WHERE THESE SCORES WILL FIT INTO THE OVERALL FORMULA AS WE WORK TOWARDS RECEIVING OUR ACCOUNTABILITY RESULTS, WHICH, UH, THE STATE HAS SAID WILL BE AVAILABLE HOPEFULLY IN OCTOBER.
SO WE'LL BE BACK WITH AN ACCOUNTABILITY PRESENTATION, UM, HOPEFULLY MAYBE OCTOBER.
SO, ALRIGHT, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE PASS RATES OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
UM, FOR EACH OF OUR SCHOOLS FOR READING ANYTHING IN BLUE SHOWS AN IMPROVEMENT FROM EACH YEAR BAND.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS SOME IMPROVEMENT IN READING OVERALL AT EACH SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS.
AND THEN THIS IS OUR MATH PASS RATES BY SCHOOLS ALSO.
AND ONCE AGAIN, ANYTHING IN BLUE IS AN IMPROVEMENT FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE DATA.
SO, UM, OUR THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE READING IN OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
THIS IS OVERALL COMBINED ACROSS THE BUILDING.
UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN OUR DATA WHERE WE INCREASE IN SOME SCORES AND THEN SORT OF DROPS BACK OFF.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF, WE HAD OUR FIRST, UH, WE ARE DOING A BOOK STUDY ON PROFESSIONAL LEARNING COMMUNITIES WITH OUR PRINCIPALS AND COACHES.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO ADDRESS IN THAT PLC.
AND THAT IS TRYING TO GET OUR DATA TO TREND IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THE WAVERING THAT WE SOMETIMES GET.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ACROSS, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF THESE SLIDES WITH THE SCORES WHERE THERE'S SOME PEAKS AND THEN SOME VALLEYS.
SO TRYING TO GET TOWARDS A TREND OF INCREASE.
UM, ELEMENTARY READING IS WORKING ON K TWO, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE SOLS.
THOSE ARE THE FOUNDATIONAL SKILLS OF PHONICS.
THEY HAVE HAD TRAINING ON PROJECT READ TO HELP SUPPORT THEIR YOUTH LIFE FOUNDATIONS INSTRUCTION.
UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING VOWS TESTING GOING.
THAT IS THE STATE LITERACY EXAM THAT, UM, OUR STUDENTS TAKE TO DETERMINE IF THEY NEED TO BE PLACED ON A INDIVIDUALIZED READING PLAN THAT DIRECTLY SUPPORTS THE INTERVENTION THEY NEED.
AND DR. MCKNIGHT WORKED WITH OUR, UH, THREE FEDERALLY IDENTIFIED SCHOOLS TO GO OVER SOME SCIENCE OF READING AND EVIDENCE-BASED INSTRUCTIONAL PRACTICES AT OUR BACK TO SCHOOL WEEK AT THE START OF THE YEAR.
SO AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL FOR MATH, UM, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING OUR NEW HQMI RESOURCE I-READY.
SO WE'RE REALLY CONCENTRATING ON WHOLE GROUP INSTRUCTION AND SMALL GROUP INSTRUCTION ACROSS K FIVE, UM, AS WELL AS ENCOURAGING TEACHERS TO REALLY CONCENTRATE ON THE, TRY IT, DISCUSS THE CONNECTED MODEL WITHIN, UH, ELEMENTARY MATH, WHICH REALLY GETS STUDENTS TO TRY AND EXPLORE THE MATH FIRST, DISCUSS IT AMONG EACH OTHER.
AND THEN THE TEACHER CONNECTED WITH LIKE, WHAT STRATEGIES DID YOU USE BEFORE JUST TELLING STUDENTS HOW TO COMPLETE EACH MATH PROBLEM.
SO THEY'RE REALLY EXPLORING THE MATH FIRST AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
YOU'LL SEE THAT IN 24, 25, WE HAD AN INCREASE IN OUR, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL READING ACROSS ALL SIXTH, SEVENTH, AND EIGHTH.
AND THAT TREND HAS CONTINUED IN SIXTH AND SEVENTH GRADE.
SO WE ARE SEEING SOME GOOD TRAJECTORY THERE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL READING PROMPTED BY, YOU MAY REMEMBER, DR.
KATIE MCKNIGHT CAME AND PRESENTED IMPLEMENTING SOME OF HER, UH, THE STRATEGIES THAT SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH US ON.
INTENTIONAL VOCABULARY INSTRUCTION, ANNOTATION, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, ENSURING OUR STUDENTS ARE GETTING ON GRADE LEVEL MATERIAL IN THEIR CLASS THAT THEY ARE EXPOSED TO THAT.
AND THEN SCAFFOLDS ARE PROVIDED FOR THOSE STUDENTS THAT MAY STILL STRUGGLE TO READ AT THAT ON GRADE LEVEL.
BUT EVEN EXPOSURE TO THAT READING IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE SOL TEST IS ON.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DID HAVE AN, UH, QUITE A BIG INCREASE IN MATH SIX.
SO OUR TEACHERS ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH SKIP TYLER AS THAT MATH INNOVATION GRANT THAT WE GOT FROM THIS STATE, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, MATH EIGHT AND ALGEBRA FOUR ALGEBRA LAST, THIS PAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THE MATH ACCELERATION LEGISLATION WAS INTO EFFECT.
SO THE STATE GAVE US A CUTOFF SCORE AND ALL THOSE STUDENTS ABOVE THAT CUTOFF SCORE ARE AUTOMATICALLY PLACED INTO ALGEBRA.
THEIR PARENT CAN CHOOSE TO OPT THEM
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OUT.BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD A LARGER, UM, WE HAVE A LARGER NUMBER OF KIDS THAT ARE TAKING ALGEBRA AS EIGHTH GRADERS AND THEY'RE BEING VERY SUCCESSFUL.
SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF POINT THAT OUT AS SOME, AS IF YOU LOOK AT MATH EIGHT AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHY THERE'S A GREATER AMOUNT OF KIDS IN MATH EIGHT WHO ARE TAKING ALGEBRA AND NOT MATH EIGHT.
WE SEE THAT WE'RE HAVING AN INCREASE IN THE 25, 26 ASSESSMENT YEAR DATA IN READING, MATH AND SCIENCE.
SCIENCE IS STILL LAGGING BEHIND SOME.
AND OUR FOCUS CONTINUES TO BE ON WORKING WITH BIOLOGY.
THAT'S THE TEST THAT MOST OF THAT SCIENCE IS MAKING UP.
THERE MAY BE A FEW CHEMISTRY TESTS OR SOMETHING LIKE, UM, SOME EARTH SCIENCE TESTS THROWN INTO THAT OVERALL SCORE, BUT THAT IS PRIMARILY 10TH GRADE BIOLOGY THAT THAT SCORE COMES FROM.
UM, OUR SCIENCE COORDINATOR HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE COURSE, WHICH IS THE NINTH GRADE COURSE, TO TRY TO ALIGN SOME OF THEIR STANDARDS SO THAT THE STUDENTS' FIRST EXPOSURE TO BIOLOGY IS NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT 10TH GRADE YEAR, BUT THOSE STANDARDS THAT SORT OF CROSS CONNECT BETWEEN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE AND BIOLOGY, MAKING THOSE RO A ROBUST FOCUS OF THAT NINTH GRADE CLASSROOM.
SO WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK ON SCIENCE, BUT IT IS TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, ALMOST 10 POINTS SINCE THE 2024 ASSESSMENT YEAR.
ALRIGHT, SO FOR ENGLISH 11 AND WORLD GEOGRAPHY STUDENTS DO NOT TAKE AN SOL.
THEY DO A LOCAL VERIFIED CREDIT.
SO FOR WORLD GEOGRAPHY, THEY DO THREE ESSAYS THROUGHOUT THE SEMESTER TO EARN THEIR VERIFIED CREDIT.
AND THEN THEY, WHATEVER'S NOT COVERED IN THOSE THREE ESSAYS FOR STANDARDS IS COVERED ON SOME COMMON ASSESSMENTS.
SO OUR OVERALL VERIFIED CREDIT PERCENTAGES ARE SHOWN IN THIS TABLE, WHICH IS A BIG INCREASE FROM STUDENTS TAKING, UM, WORLD HISTORY SOL.
SO OUR SUCCESS RATE FOR STUDENTS EARNING VERIFIED CREDIT INCREASED A LOT LAST YEAR.
AND THEN FOR ENGLISH 11, THEY USED TO WRITE ESSAYS IN EACH OF, IN NINTH GRADE, 10TH GRADE, AND 11TH GRADE.
BUT INSTEAD WE SWITCHED TO WORK KEYS ASSESSMENT.
SO THEY DO A BUSINESS WRITING TEST.
AND THAT IS OUR VERIFIED CREDIT PERCENTAGE RATES FOR THAT CLASS TOO, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OVER THE ESSAY PORTFOLIO FROM THE YEARS BEFORE.
ALL RIGHT, UM, JUST A COMPARISON SLIDE TO GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, SOME DATA POINT AS TO WHERE WE STACK UP WITH SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING DIVISIONS.
UM, OUR READING PASS RATE, THIS IS COMBINING ALL, YOU KNOW, THREE THROUGH 12 READING SOLS.
SO IT'S AN OVERALL DIVISION RATE, 71% AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PRETTY GOOD THERE AT THE TOP I THINK WITH OUR, SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORING DIVISIONS THAT ARE OF, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR SIZE TO US, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND THEN MATH IS A LITTLE LOWER, NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON MATH AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE, UM, WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH SKIP TYLER WITH MIDDLE SCHOOL MATH.
UM, AND THEN AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MATH, ESPECIALLY AT OUR THREE, UM, FEDERALLY IDENTIFIED SCHOOLS, THEY HAD A LOT OF PD AT THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR IN FACILITATING MATH INSTRUCTION, UM, IN SMALL GROUPS IN THEIR CLASSROOM.
SO OVERALL, SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT.
WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IMPROVED FROM 93RD TO 81ST IN THE OVERALL SOL PASS RATE OUT OF THE, UH, STATES DIVISION.
SO WORK TO DO FOR SURE, BUT WE ARE TRENDING IN A GOOD DIRECTION FOR 25, 26 ASSESSMENTS.
SKYLINE MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS IN THE TOP 20 SCHOOLS WITH THE GREATEST IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR SOL PASS RATE DATA OUT OF 583 CIP SCHOOLS.
CIP IS THE CONSORTIUM THAT WE BELONG TO.
EVERY SCHOOL DIVISION IN THE STATE IS NOT PART OF THAT, BUT IT IS A PRETTY GOOD, UM, REPRESENTATION OF THE STATE.
AND SO TO BE IN THE TOP 20 OUT OF 583, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SKYLINE MIDDLE SCHOOL'S SUCCESS THAT THEY'RE SEEING.
WE ALSO SAW SOME GOOD SUCCESS IN A YEAR LONG BIOLOGY PILOT THAT WAS DONE LAST YEAR AT SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL.
THAT COURSE HAS STUDENTS IN, UH, THE BIOLOGY CLASS EVERY DAY FOR 90 MINUTES WHERE THEY ARE RECEIVING MORE BIOLOGY INSTRUCTION AND REALLY ALLOWING THEM TIME TO PROCESS THAT MATERIAL.
THERE'S A LOT OF VOCABULARY WITH BIOLOGY AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE STUDENTS THAT, UM, ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT BIO TEST IN THE SPRING, BUT THEY'VE HAD A WHOLE YEAR OF TIME TO PROCESS, DO LABS HAVE EXPERIENCES.
AND WE DID SEE THAT PAYOFF AT A 85% RATE IN
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THAT PARTICULAR CLASS, WHICH WAS, UH, UH, WELL ABOVE WHERE OUR AVERAGE WAS.UM, WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON OUR AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT IN MATH.
AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S THAT SMALL GROUP MATH INSTRUCTION AT, UM, SPECIFICALLY OUR THREE FEDERALLY IDENTIFIED SCHOOLS AND THE STUDENT-CENTERED MATH INSTRUCTION, WHICH YOU ALL GOT TO EXPERIENCE AT ONE OF THE BOARD MEETINGS, UM, WITH, UH, OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN ENGLISH.
IT'S CONTINUING TO FOCUS ON THE ALIGNMENT OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS TO ENSURE EXPOSURE TO THAT GRADE LEVEL TEXT AND ESTABLISHING THOSE ROUTINES AROUND ANNOTATION SUMMARIZATION.
AND THAT WORK IS REALLY GOING ON K EIGHT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, WAS CONTINUED, UM, WITH OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WERE FEDERALLY IDENTIFIED WITH DR. MCKNIGHT AND NOW WE'RE STARTING THAT DOWN IN OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS TO KIND OF BUILD ON THAT CAPACITY.
AND LASTLY, IN SCIENCE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE LEADING WITH PHENOMENON STRATEGY AT ALL GRADE LEVELS, UM, TO GET STUDENTS ENGAGED AND TALKING ABOUT THE SCIENCE ACCOMPANIED WITH, UH, THE ENHANCED PACING GUIDES THAT OUR CURRICULUM COORDINATORS, UH, PUT TOGETHER FOR ALL OF OUR SUBJECTS.
BUT IN SCIENCE, THE FOCUS ON THE SUPPORT OF THE FIVE E INSTRUCTIONAL MODEL, WHICH IS ALL ABOUT ENGAGEMENT, EVALUATION, AND REALLY, UM, EXPERIMENTING AND REALLY GETTING INTO THE SCIENCE WORK.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH HERE.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF DATA AND A LOT OF PERCENTAGES, UM, AROUND LIKE SCIENCE AND HISTORY SCORES, UM, AT MIDDLE SCHOOL, AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
[3.D. EWM Elementary - Structural Update Dr. Costner]
HAVE DR.COSTNER AND THE E WILSON MORRISON UPDATE.
FIRST I'D LIKE TO REITERATE, UM, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID TO SHOUT OUT A BIG APPRECIATION TO THE DIVISION, THE WILSON TEACHERS, TO OUR TOWN, OUR COUNTY, AND ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO HELP WITH THIS CHALLENGE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US AND HELPING US OVERCOME THOSE CHALLENGES.
SO I DID WANNA PUT PUBLICLY SAY THAT TO THANK EVERYONE.
UM, ALSO WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE ZEMM ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS, UM, COMPANY THAT CAME IN.
UM, RANDY JONES IS HERE TONIGHT TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT WHAT THEY FOUND.
UM, THEY DID DO THIS WITHOUT CHARGE.
THEY CAME IN TO HELP TAKE CARE OF THE SCHOOLS.
AND SO WE ARE THANKFUL AND APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
AND ALSO JOINING US VIRTUALLY AS A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, UM, JEFF BRUNS, THAT, UM, ALSO WILL BE A PART OF THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. RANDY JONES.
UH, I WISH I WAS HERE UNDER BETTER CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT, UH, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
UM, NOT A STRANGER TO WARREN COUNTY SCHOOLS.
UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WARREN COUNTY SCHOOLS SINCE, UH, THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.
I WAS THE ARCHITECT FOR SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, WARREN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL, UM, AS ROADS AT RENOVATION BEAN CROSBY STADIUM.
UM, AND IRONICALLY ENOUGH, THE ARCHITECT THAT DID THE 2004 RENOVATION AT E WILSON MORRISON.
SO I HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH THE SCHOOLS.
UM, WHEN I RECEIVED THE CALL ON, UH, AUGUST 21ST FROM, UH, BRIAN HELMICK, UH, HE SAID THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE, THE WAY THE BRICK LOOKED AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND SO I TOLD HIM THAT I COULD BE THERE THAT AFTERNOON.
UH, SO WHEN I ARRIVED, UH, DAVID BEAM WAS ALSO HERE, THE COUNTY BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND, AND AS DR.
COSTNER AS WELL, AND SEVERAL OTHER FOLKS, UH, YOU CAN VISUALLY SEE WHEN YOU'RE STANDING AT THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THERE HAS BEEN WALL MOVEMENT.
UM, IT DOESN'T SHOW UP IN PICTURES AS WELL, UH, BUT IF YOU'RE STANDING IN THERE A FOOT AWAY FROM THE BUILDING AND LOOKING UP AT IT, YOU CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT MOVEMENT.
UM, WE ARE PROCEEDING VERY CAUTIOUSLY.
UH, OBVIOUSLY STUDENT AND STAFF SAFETY IS, IS PARAMOUNT.
UM, WE CONSULTED AMONGST OURSELVES WITH DAVID BEAM MAKING THE DECISION THAT THE BUILDING WOULD WAS NOT SAFE FOR OCCUPANCY AT THIS TIME.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, MORE OUT OF A CAUTION THAN ANYTHING.
UH, WE DO NOT SEE AN IMMINENT, UM, EVENT HAPPENING.
HOWEVER, THERE'S ENOUGH CONCERN OUT THERE THAT WE DO NOT WANNA RISK HAVING STUDENTS OR FACULTY GOING IN AND OUTTA THE BUILDING.
SO, UM, WHEN WE HAD THAT MEETING ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON, I RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, LANCE CONSTRUCTION OUTTA WINCHESTER, UH, BE CONTACTED.
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UH, THEY CAME OUT AND PUT UP SOME TEMPORARY FENCING AND BARRIERS, AND WE ALSO ASKED THEM TO DO SOME VERY SELECTIVE DEMOLITION OF THE BRICK ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE WE REALLY WEREN'T SURE WHAT WAS GOING ON.YOU, YOU REALLY CAN'T TELL JUST BY LOOKING AT THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO THEY DID REMOVE SOME SECTIONS.
WE, WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A HISTORIC BUILDING.
IT'S, IT'S A BUILDING THAT'S LOVED BY THE COMMUNITY.
BUT, UM, WE DID DO SOME, UH, THERE'S MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
BUT, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE FOUND, UH, WE WERE, UH, CONCERNED ENOUGH WHEN WE CAME BACK ON SATURDAY TO ASK OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER JEFF, UH, JEFF ROOS COME AND DO AN INVESTIGATION.
UH, SO JEFF WAS ABLE TO JOIN US ON MONDAY MORNING, WHICH WAS, UH, AUGUST 24TH.
UH, HE WAS ABLE TO GET UP ON THE LIFT THAT, UH, LANCE CONSTRUCTION BROUGHT A LIFT OUT THERE.
HE WAS ABLE TO GET UP AND INSPECT VERY CLOSELY, UH, THE AREAS WHERE WE HAD A BRICK REMOVAL.
HE WAS ACTUALLY REMOVING SOME BRICK HIMSELF.
HE WAS OUT THERE WITH THE HAMMER REMOVING SOME BRICKS SO HE COULD TAKE SOME MEASUREMENTS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MOVEMENT WAS HAPPENING AGAIN.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE OBSERVED AND WHAT JEFF HAS INCLUDED IN HIS REPORT IS THERE IS SOME SIGNIFICANT MOVEMENT.
WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE MORE INVESTIGATION DONE.
UM, DEPENDING ON HOW EXTENSIVE IT IS, IS HOW WE WILL TACKLE THIS PROBLEM.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE REPORT, THERE IS NO CONCERN WITH THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE BUILDING.
THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH THE, THE ROOF STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING.
THE BUILDING AS A WHOLE IS S SOUND.
IT'S JUST THESE AREAS WHERE THE WALLS ARE MOVING.
UM, I ALSO WANT MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT OF SHATTER.
THIS IS NOT A DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED.
UH, THIS WAS INHERENT IN THE, WE THINK, INHERENT IN THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THE WAY THEY BUILT THESE BUILDINGS BACK IN THE, UH, 1930S, 1940S.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE KNOW NOW ABOUT, UH, MOISTURE MITIGATION, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE WALLS ARE ABLE TO DRAIN WATER AND SO FORTH.
SO OVER TIME THAT THE WALL APPEARS TO HAVE MOVED VERY, VERY INCREMENTALLY, VERY SMALL, ALMOST TO THE POINT YOU WOULD NEVER NOTICE IT UNTIL ONE DAY YOU DO NOTICE IT.
AND, UH, THAT DAY WAS ON OFF THAT FRIDAY.
SO, UM, WE ARE HAPPY TO, WE KNOW YOU HAVE A REPORT AND YOU, YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT.
UM, I KNOW IT'S LONG AND THE PICTURES DON'T REALLY DO IT JUSTICE, BUT, UH, UNLESS YOU'RE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY GET UP ON THAT LIFT AND TAKE THE MEASUREMENTS AND LOOK YOU, IT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND THE, UM, THE PROBLEM THAT'S, THAT'S AT HAND.
BUT, UH, JEFF IS ONLINE AND HE WAS ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UH, I'M ALSO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, AGAIN, WE TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
I HAD A PIT IN MY STOMACH ON FRIDAY WHEN I, WHEN I LEFT, BECAUSE I KNEW THIS WAS A, A VERY, VERY SERIOUS SITUATION.
SO, UH, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK JEFF? HE IS ONLINE, SO I KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE HIM, BUT, UH, HE IS THERE.
JEFF, ARE YOU THERE? HE WAS THERE.
UM, SO IS THE MOVEMENT STRICTLY WITH THE FACADE OR HAS THE STRUCTURAL WALL BEHIND IT MOVED AT ALL? SO THE, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO THAT.
UM, THE BUILDING IS A, UH, HAS A CONCRETE POST AND BEAM STRUCTURE.
UM, AND, UH, THE FIRST FLOOR, THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NO DETECTABLE MOVEMENT.
THE SECOND FLOOR WAY, THE BUILD, THE THE WALL EXTERIOR WALL WAS BUILT IS LOAD BEARING FOR THE ROOF STRUCTURE.
THAT IS THE WALL THAT APPEARS TO BE MOVING.
THE FLOOR STRUCTURE ITSELF SEEMS TO BE FINE BASED ON WHAT WE CAN SEE AT THIS POINT.
BUT BECAUSE THE WALL WAS MOVING AT THE SECOND FLOOR, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE ROOF NOW NEEDS TO BE SHORED UP SO THAT IT IS, IT DOESN'T HAVE POTENTIAL OF, OF FALLING AS WELL.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN TELL AT THIS POINT THAT'S INDICATES ANY TYPE OF FOUNDATIONAL ISSUES OR I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL SUGGESTIONS ABOUT SINK HOLES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW WHATSOEVER.
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WITH THE CAVITY WALLS OR, 'CAUSE IT SAYS THAT THE, THE SCHOOL IS MADE UP OF BOTH A COMBINATION OF THE MASS WALL AND THE CAVITY WALL.SO IF, IS IT BOTH OR IS IT JUST THE ONE TYPE? IT IS, IT IS.
AND JEFF, YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR OR NOT, BUT I, IT'S, IT'S THE CAVITY WALL THAT, UH, WE'RE REFERRING TO ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
SO THE MASS WALL, SO BASED ON THE MASS WALL IS DIFFERENT THE WAY THE BRICK INTERLOCKS.
WOULD WE NOT BE SURE OF THAT UNTIL WE DID MORE INVESTIGATION? WE NEED TO DO MORE INVESTIGATION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY DRAWINGS.
I THINK THAT MAYBE THEY FOUND SOME MORE DRAWINGS AFTER THE FACT, BUT WE ONLY HAD THE DRAWINGS FOR THE, UH, THE TWO SIDE ADDITIONS.
UH, SO WE'RE KIND OF EXTRAPOLATING FROM THAT BASED ON, AND ALSO WHAT HIS, UH, OBSERVATIONS WERE WHEN WE WERE ON SITE.
SO, JEFF, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, DO YOU HAVE AN INCLINATION OF WHAT HAS CAUSED THE BLOCK WALL TO MOVE? MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS THAT THE TIDES HAVE FAILED THAT TIE THE BRICK, UM, TO IT, THE WATER HAS PROBABLY GOTTEN INTO, TO THE WALL.
UM, IT'S HARD TO TELL IF THERE'S REINFORCING WITHIN THAT WALL.
AND THEN WHAT THE TIE IS, THE TWO POCKETS THAT WE SAW, UH, KIND OF LIKE THE MIDDLE, I WOULD SAY MAYBE THE MIDDLE THIRD FROM EACH END SHOWED A DISPLACEMENT WHERE THE BLOCK WAS OUTWARDLY PUSHED FROM THE EDGE OF THE SLAB, UM, ABOUT AN INCH AND A HALF TO TWO INCHES, WHICH IS ALARMING.
UM, WE HAD THE CONTRACTOR ON THE NEXT DAY OPEN UP THE WALL NEAR THE CORNER WHERE YOU'D EX, WHERE YOU'D EXPECT IT.
IF IT WAS, UM, NOT MOVING, THAT THE, UH, BLOCK WOULD BE MORE FLUSHED AND THE PICTURE'S A LITTLE BLURRED.
UM, BUT THE INDICATION IS, IS THAT AT THAT TOWARDS THE ENDS, THE, THE BLOCK CI OR THE CINDER BLOCK, THE OUTSIDE FACE OF THAT IS MORE FLUSH WITH THE EDGE OF THE FLOOR SLAB.
VERSUS WHEN YOU GET MORE TOWARDS THE CENTER, IT'S BOW OUT.
IT'S DEFINITELY MORE PRONOUNCED ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
UM, THAT'S THE ELEVATION THAT YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF HEAT, HEAT GAIN, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT.
UM, WE DID SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
THERE WAS A SMALLER HOLE ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, KIND OF OUT BY THAT, UH, PAVEMENT AREA.
UM, SIMILAR THING WITH THE, UM, BLOCK, NOT FLUSH, BUT IT DEFINITELY WAS NOT AS LARGE.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO GET SOME MORE MEASUREMENTS, UM, OF LIKE THE INSIDE OF THE ROOMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AT THE CORNER, SEE HOW THE WALL, HOW PERHAPS HOW SQUARE THE WALL IS.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE, WE DEFINITELY WOULD, WE DON'T WANT TO JUMP TO ANY ALARMING, LIKE TEAR IT DOWN, START OVER, YOU KNOW, TYPE TYPE THINGS.
WHAT RANDY DID SAY IS, I LIKE, I LIKE TO SAY THE BONES ARE, UH, GOOD ON THIS.
THE FRAME DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE MOVED AT ALL.
UM, THE FOUNDATION, I DON'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF SETTLEMENT.
UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, MASONRY DOES NOT LIKE THINGS TO MOVE.
THERE'S HARDLY ANY CRACKS IN THE ACTUAL FACADE.
I MEAN, FOR A BUILDING THAT'S 85 YEARS OLD, THE MASONRY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AT ITS FACE, LOOKING AT THE FRONT OF IT, IT, IT LOOKS IN GREAT SHAPE.
UM, THE PROBLEM IS, IS HOW IT'S TIED BACK AND WHY IT'S MOVING AS MUCH AS IT HAS.
I DON'T THINK THIS HAS JUST OCCURRED.
I THINK IT'S BEEN, UM, OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
UM, YOU CAN TELL, I MEAN, WHEN YOU SEE A WINDOW JAM, WHICH CAN SEE IN THE, YOU KNOW, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM YOU SEE AN INCH AND A HALF TO TWO INCHES IN A LIMITED AMOUNT OF LENGTH.
UM, CAVITY WALL, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE 1935 OR 32 EDITION, UM, THE DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE SUGGEST THAT IT'S A MASS WALL, UM, THE 42 OR 45, UM, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE DRAWINGS FOR THAT, BUT, UM, THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE WALL IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE CAVITY WALL.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY AT THE INFANCY OF WHEN THAT CONSTRUCTION STARTED TO OCCUR.
SO TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED IMMENSELY ON THE DESIGN OF THOSE WALLS.
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I JUST THINK, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW BACK, BACK, BACK THEN, AFTER THIS AMOUNT OF TIME HAS JUST STARTED TO SHOW ITSELF.UH, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS OF A CAVITY WALL THAT'S IMPORTANT IS DRAINAGE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S WATER WILL GET IN THE WALLS.
THE ISSUE IS, IS YOU GOTTA GET THE WATER BACK OUT OF THE WALL.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN OUR CLIMATES.
UM, A LOT OF FREEZE, UH, THAW GOES ON.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES HOW YOU GET THE THE WATER OUT IS WEEPS.
I DID NOT SEE ANY WEEPS THERE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT THERE.
UM, THEY COULD BE THERE, THEY COULD, I'M NOT SURE IF THE BUILDING'S BEEN TUCK POINTED AT ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
THEY COULD HAVE BEEN FILLED IN, UH, OR THEY JUST COULD, COULD JUST NOT HAVE BEEN THERE.
UM, AGAIN, WITHOUT THE ACTUAL DRAWINGS, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GUESS AS TO HOW THAT WALL, UH, WITHOUT TEARING TOO MUCH OF IT APART.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, TAKE OUR BEST GUESSES AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN FINDING THE ACTUAL DRAWINGS FOR THIS AREA, BUT IF THEY HAVE, THAT WOULD BE VERY, UM, IMPORTANT TO SHARE WITH US.
SO DO YOU, DO YOU, WHEN YOU SAY THE WATER INFILTRATION AND THE CLIPS THAT, THAT'S HOLDING THE BRICK TO THE BLOCK, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY'RE GONE OR RUSTED, RUSTED OUT? THEY COULD BE.
AGAIN, WE SAW, WE SAW ONE TIE IN ONE OF THE HOLES THAT WAS THERE.
SO WE COULD TELL IT WAS A TIE.
IT WAS MORE OF A, WHAT I WOULD CALL A, UH, CORRUGATED TIE.
IT'S MORE OF A TIE THAT TYPICALLY YOU SEE IN RESIDENTIAL.
UM, IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN COMMERCIALS, UM, STRUCTURES.
UM, BUT BACK THEN AGAIN, BEING THE AGE OF IT, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BEST FORM OF A TIE THAT THEY HAD AT THAT, AT THAT TIME.
UM, SO I SUSPECT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF TIES THAT ARE ANCHORING THIS BACK.
UM, AND IF YOU START TO LOSE ONE OR TWO OF 'EM, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'VE GOT A MUCH LARGER PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AS DENSELY SPACED AS, UM, TYPICAL CODES REQUIRE 'EM TODAY.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT I, I'M STRUGGLING WITH AT THE MOMENT.
UM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS IF THERE'S NO TIE THERE, THEN THAT WOULD RELEASE THE BRICK FROM THE BLOCK.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THE BLOCK? 'CAUSE IF THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT CONNECT THE TWO, BUT THEY'RE BOTH PUSHING TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD BE PUSHING.
WELL, SO REMEMBER, WIND FORCES ACT IN BOTH, IN BOTH, UH, WAYS, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE WIND FORCES OR THE DIRECTION OF THE WINDS, YOU GET A WINDWARD FORCE AND YOU ALSO GET A LEEWARD FORCE.
SO JUST BECAUSE THE WIND IS, LET'S SAY, BLOWING DIRECTLY ON THE, UH, LET'S SAY IT WAS BLOWING ON THE NORTH FACE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE SOUTH FACADE DOESN'T SEE A, UM, COUNTERACTING SUCTION FORCE ON THAT, DOES IT.
SO WIND IS VERY, UM, IT'S NOT AS, UM, LINEAR AS, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD THINK IT'S JUST ACTS IN ONE PLANE.
SO, UM, THE FORCES ACT IN BOTH, UH, DIRECTION ANYTIME THE WIND IS BLOWING.
SO IN YOUR REPORT, YOU SAID YOU HAD AREAS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONALLY.
UM, YOU'D BE WILLING TO, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US THOSE AREAS OF WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE TAKEN DOWN.
I'D LIKE TO, UM, I'LL, UH, WE WILL, UH, PREPARE A, UH, DRAWING THAT WE COULD, UM, UM, ENGAGE.
I'M NOT SURE IF LANCE WILL BE RETAINED AGAIN TO DO THIS, BUT, UM, WE WOULD WANT, UM, WE'D WANNA SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME OUT OUT THERE.
WE'D PROBABLY WANNA ARRIVE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN THE DAY, UM, POSSIBLY GET IN THE NIGHT, UH, BEFORE, SO WE CAN BE ON SITE FIRST, UH, THING IN THE MORNING, HAVE, HAVE THIS STUFF DONE AHEAD OF TIME.
AND ALSO HAVE THE CONTRACTOR THERE WHERE WE, WITH SOME MEASUREMENTS LIKE, UM, LASERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WE CAN TAKE SOME, SEE HOW PLUM THINGS ARE, SEE HOW DISTANCES RELATE ON THE INSIDE FACE, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALONG THE LENGTH OF THE ROOM.
UH, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO MOVE OR HAVE SOME, UM, THINGS MOVE.
THERE'S A LOT OF BOOKCASES AND STUFF ALONG THAT, UM, UH,
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SOUTH WALL, UM, WHICH KIND OF HIDES WHAT IS THERE.UH, ONE OF THE PHOTOS THAT WE TOOK, YOU COULD TELL THAT THERE WAS CAULK DONE ALONG THE VERTICAL SIDE OF THE BOOKCASE TO THE WALL, ALMOST LIKE TO CLOSE UP A GAP.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S A GAP CAUSED BY MOVEMENT OR JUST THE NATURAL THINGS THAT THINGS JUST DON'T ALWAYS FIT TIGHT FURNITURE TO WALLS.
SO THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE DONE AHEAD OF WHEN WE GET OUT THERE.
SO OUR TIME ON SITE CAN BE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE THAT IT CAN BE.
AND ONE LAST QUESTION FROM ME IS, UM, ON THE SHORING NUT PROCESS, DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC METHOD THAT YOU'D RECOMMEND? I MEAN, DO WE DO JACKS OR STUD WALLS OR ANY, ANY METHOD? I MEAN, IT'S REALLY, WE'RE GONNA LET LEAVE THAT UP TO THE, UM, SHORING CON CONTRACTOR BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE.
UM, THE GOOD THING IS YOU'RE ONLY SHORING UP, I DON'T WANNA SAY ONLY, BUT YOU'RE SHOWING UP A ROOF, WHICH IS LIGHTER THAN A, A, YOU KNOW, A FLOOR.
UM, WE DON'T SEE ANY CONCERNS IF YOU JUST SHORE THAT DIRECTLY DOWN TO THAT SECOND FLOOR BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A, UM, KIND OF A TANK OF A FLOOR THERE WITH THE CAST IN PLACE.
CONCRETE, UM, FLOOR LOAD IS MUCH HEAVIER THAN ROOF LOAD.
SO, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT OCCUPYING THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE, THERE'S PLENTY OF CAPACITY IN THAT FLOOR SYSTEM TO SUPPORT THE, UM, THE ENDS OF THOSE JOISTS.
IT LOOKS LIKE AT ONE TIME, SOME OF THOSE PICTURES, IF YOU HAPPEN TO NOTICE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROOF STRUCTURE WAS REPLACED.
THERE'S EVIDENCE OF OLD BAR JOISTS THAT WERE CUT OFF RIGHT AT THE FACE OF A WALL AND THEN A NEW JOIST PUT IN, YOU KNOW, ALMOST, UM, IN THE SAME SPOT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HISTORY IS OF WHAT HAPPENED, UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A CHANGE, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE MADE, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, CUT OUT OLD JOISTS AND PUT A WHOLE NEW ROOF JOISTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HISTORY IS, BUT IF ANYBODY HAS THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN THOSE OTHER JOISTS THAT CREATED SOME OF THIS ISSUE AS WELL, I WOULD IMAGINE.
AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY WERE CHANGED.
NOW ONE THING WE DID NOTICE IS THAT, UM, THE BAR JOISTS THAT ARE THERE NOW, SO IN TYPICAL CURRENT CODES, YOU KNOW, WHEN A, WHEN A MAINSTREAM WALL IS BUILT, YOU GO UP TO WHATEVER THE BEARING HEIGHT OF THE JOISTS IS, YOU PUT A STEEL BEARING PLATE IN OF SOME SORT THAT HAS STUDS THAT ARE GROUTED SOLID INTO THAT WALL.
ONCE THE JOISTS LANDS ON THAT BEARING PLATE, YOU WELD IT OFF AND THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY BRACED AND TIED OFF THE TOP OF THE WALL.
UM, WHAT WE APPEAR TO HAVE SEEN IS ALMOST JUST LOOKS LIKE A MORTAR BED.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NOT A BEARING PLATE BURIED BEHIND THE MORTAR.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S JUST CODES HAVE EVOLVED SO MUCH THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DID WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS BEST BACK THEN.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE 85 YEARS OLD NOW, SO THESE THINGS ARE GONNA START TO SHOW THEMSELVES.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SEE WHAT KIND OF TIES WE GOT OUT THE ROOF STRUCTURE TO THAT WALL.
AN EIGHT INCH LOAD BEARING WALL SUPPORTING A ROOF.
THERE'S, IT DOESN'T, THERE'S PLENTY OF CAPACITY IN THE WALL ITSELF.
AND THAT WALL IS BARELY LOADED WITH WEIGHT.
IT'S JUST, BUT WHAT BECOMES CRITICAL IS WHAT WE DEFINE AS A LOAD PATH.
YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DEFINE WHETHER THAT LOAD PATH IS VERTICAL OR LATERAL, LATERAL.
IT'S GOTTA MAKE ITS WAY FROM ITS INCEPTION POINT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FOUNDATION.
AND WHAT THOSE LINKS, WHICH ARE TIES, ANCHORS, RODS, WELDS, ALL OF THAT IS WHAT CREATES THE LOAD PATH.
IF ANY ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS COMPROMISED ALONG THE WAY, THEN YOU'RE RELYING ON REDUNDANCY OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO RESOLVE THAT.
AND I JUST THINK OVER TIME, IF WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THESE TIES,
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THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE JUST SEEING MOVEMENT THAT HAS JUST STARTED TO OCCUR.I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR FLYING UP TOO ON MONDAY.
AND I, AND I TELL YOU, I, I KIND OF ENJOYED THAT TOWN.
IT LOOKED, THOSE ARE PRETTY NEAT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN US BACK HOME HERE IN CHICAGO AREA, BUT IT IS THE ROLLING HILLS AND GOING INTO THAT TOWN, AND I DON'T THINK YOU GOT A SQUARE STREET TO EACH OTHER.
UM, BUT, UM, VERY, YOU KNOW, I, I WISH I COULD, YOU KNOW, I THINK NEXT TIME I COME IN THERE, I'M GONNA TRY TO, YOU KNOW, SEE THE TOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
HOW MANY EXPLORATORY OPENINGS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? OR DO YOU, CAN YOU GIVE US A BALLPARK? I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION.
HOW MANY EXPLORATORY OPENINGS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DOING? DO YOU KNOW? I WOULD SAY, UM, WELL, I WANNA DO SOME MORE ON THE NORTH SIDE, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE, I THINK WE HAVE ONE.
SO I'M PROBABLY THINKING 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, PROBABLY NO MORE THAN A DOZEN TOTAL ON THE OUTSIDE.
AND THEN WE MIGHT WANNA DO SOME, UM, OH, SOME STUFF ON THE INSIDE AS WELL.
UM, DOES YOUR COMPANY HAVE ACCESS TO NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING MECHANISMS? UM, RADAR, INFRARED, THE, THE MANY OTHER TYPES OF, OF SCANNING DEVICES THAT ARE NOW AVAILABLE TO AVOID HAVING TO DO, UM, CUTTING INTO THE, THE BRICK, WHICH CAN COMPROMISE THE ARCHING ACTION OF THE, THE BRICK STRUCTURE.
UH, WE, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT.
WE WOULD RELY ON A TESTING COMPANY, UM, THAT HAS THAT TO PERFORM THOSE TESTS BASED ON ANY SUGGESTED TESTS THAT WE RECOMMEND.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UM, FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE TERMS THAT ARE USED, INCLUDING MYSELF FOR WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I TRY TO DO A LITTLE SUMMARY OF WHAT, WHAT I THINK IS THE RESULT OF THE REPORT IN ENGLISH.
UM, THE BRICK FACADE THAT'S ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE, THE, THE CONCRETE THAT'S UP THERE IS THE THING THAT'S SEPARATING FROM THE CONCRETE DUE TO, UH, TWO OR THREE INCHES AWAY FROM IT.
THERE'S METAL TIES THAT JUST SUPPOSED TO HOLD THOSE BRICKS ONTO THE CONCRETE.
AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS CAUSING THE PROBLEMS. THESE METAL TIES THAT HOOK THE BRICK ONTO THAT, THERE'S POOR DRAINAGE BEHIND THE BRICK.
AND THAT'S THE THING, THE WATER THAT'S GOING BEHIND THE BRICK IN, IN BETWEEN THE BRICK AND THE, THE CONCRETE IS THE THING THAT'S CAUSING PROBLEMS WITH THESE TIES THAT'S CAUSING THE BRICK TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE CONCRETE.
AND THAT'S THE WATER AND THERMAL EXPANSION IS THE, IS THE PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
SO ULTIMATELY FROM WHAT, AT LEAST WHAT I READ ON THERE, THAT THERE'S, THE ENGINEERS DID NOT FIND ANY VISIBLE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS WITH THE BUILDING'S, CONCRETE COLUMNS, BEAMS, FLOORS ARE FOUNDATION.
IT'S MORE THE EXTERIOR BRICK FACADE.
SO LIKE THE SIDING ON A HOUSE THAT'S DAMAGED BEHIND IT.
THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER THINGS BEHIND IT, BUT THERE'S THE BRICK ON E WILSON MORRISON IS LIKE THE OUTSIDE SIDING, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH IT.
AND IT, IT IS A PROBLEM, BUT IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL WALLS AND THE FOOTINGS AND THE, IT'S NOT FALLING DOWN.
JUST WANNA VERIFY THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF THE SUMMARY AS ME SPEAKING ENGLISH.
OH, I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT, THAT THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT SOME OF THE CONCRETE BLOCKS CINDER BLOCK IS ALSO MOVING.
UH, AND WE'RE NOT REALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN WHY THAT IS.
IF YOU LOOK, IT'S, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACADE IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, IT BOWS IN TWO DIRECTIONS.
IT BOWS OUTWARD AND IT ALSO TILTS BACKWARDS.
AND SO THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE CONCERN WITH THE, WITH THE CENTER BLOCK WALL, IS THAT THAT EDGE OF THAT CENTER BLOCK WALL AND THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING HAS SHIFTED OFF THE SLAB.
WE THINK FROM WHAT THE, WHERE WE'VE GONE IN AND DONE SOME DESTRUCTION TWO TO THREE INCHES.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE MYSTERY RIGHT NOW.
UM, MY INITIAL THOUGHT WHEN I GOT THE CALL FROM MR. HELMICK WAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, THAT THE BRAKE, THE BRICK TIES HAVE BRUSHED IT OUT AND THE BRICK IS COMING LOOSE.
AND I'VE SEEN THAT IN BUILDINGS ALL OVER THE STATE, AND YOU SIMPLY PEEL IT OFF AND YOU BUILD IT BACK.
BUT THE, WHAT IS CONCERNING, UH, IS WHERE THAT BLOCK WALL WAS ALSO MOVING.
AND SO I THINK WHAT, UH, JEFF IS SUGGESTING WE WANT TO GO UP THERE AND THEN BE IN THE LIBRARY, REMOVE SOME OF THOSE CABINETS,
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REMOVE SOME OF THAT PLASTER, AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON FROM THE OTHER SIDE.SO, AND THAT, THAT'S WHY WE THINK WE NEED TO, TO DO MORE ADDITIONAL TESTING.
BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE, WE DO NOT SEE ANY REASON THAT THE BUILDING SHOULD BE TORN DOWN.
AND THIS CAN BE REPAIRED WITH RETROFIT TIES AND DRILLING WEEP HOLES AND, AND CUTTING EXPANSION AND EXPANSION JOINTS.
AND IF IT WAS, IF IT, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, IF IT WOULD BE REDONE TO TODAY'S STANDARDS.
SO YEAH, INCLUDING INSULATION, YOU, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT SURPRISED THERE'S ZERO INSULATION IN THAT EXTERIOR WALL.
SO, SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING TEARING DOWN THE EXISTING VENEER AS OPPOSED TO JUST USING RETROFIT TIES AND, AND REPAIRING WHAT'S THERE? OH, I'M SORRY.
I HAD A HARD TIME HEARING YOU.
AND JEFF, YOU MIGHT WANNA JUMP IN HERE.
I DON'T KNOW OF A WAY TO, I GUESS WE CAN STABILIZE IT.
I MEAN, IT IS MOVED, IT'S NOT GONNA GO BACK.
SO YOU, THERE MAY BE A WAY TO STABILIZE IT, RIGHT? YOU REALLY, YOU REALLY CAN'T, AT LEAST I'M NOT AWARE OF A GOOD WAY TO MOVE A MASONRY FACADE BACK.
THEY DO MAKE RETRO TIES THAT YOU BASICALLY DRILL THROUGH THE MORTAR JOINTS.
IT'S A HELICAL TIE THAT BASICALLY ACTS LIKE A GIANT DRILL BIT THAT WOULD ANCHOR INTO THE CINDER BLOCK.
UM, IT'S TYPICALLY DONE WITH MASONRY, A CONCRETE BLOCK MORE.
UM, WE'D HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT ROAD VALUES YOU GET OUT OF A CINDER BLOCK BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY A WEAKER MATERIAL THAN THE MODERN DAY CONCRETE MASONRY UNIT.
UM, BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT, UM, WE HAVE TO JUST FIRST CONFIRM THAT THAT'S, THAT ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS BRACE THAT BACK AND THEN WEAR TO BRACE IT BACK AT.
NOW DOES YOUR COMPANY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE TO CUSTOM MAKE RETROFIT TIES AND, AND THE MANNER THE ALL SORTS OF STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS? I KNOW I, I, I FOLLOW WITH, UM, THE REPAIRS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AT THE STATE CAPITOL AND ALEXANDRIA CITY SCHOOLS AT UVAI, I KNOW SOME OF THESE, THE COMPANIES THAT, SO I THINK PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO WOULD BE A, UH, MASONRY RESTORATION CONTRACTOR.
UH, AND THERE ARE DEFINITELY CONTRACTORS AROUND.
UM, UH, LANCE CONSTRUCTION DOES NOT DO THAT.
UH, BUT THERE ARE CONTRACTORS THAT SPECIALIZE IN THAT AND THEY COULD CERTAINLY, UH, BE BROUGHT INTO, UH, DO AN EVALUATION AS WELL.
DO YOU GUYS DIRECTLY EMPLOY ANY PHDS IN MASONRY STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS? OR IS THAT NOT, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD CONTRACT OUT? I'M, COULD YOU HEAR THAT? I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU.
UM, DO YOU EMPLOY ANY, ANYONE WITH A PHD IN MASONRY STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS? OH, PHD.
A PHD IN MASONRY STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS WITH A SPECIALTY IN, IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
UM, IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION ARE, IS THE QUESTION, ARE WE GOING TO PERFORM ANY STRUCTURAL LOAD LOAD CALCS? IS THAT WHAT SHE WANTED TO KNOW? IS IF WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE ON S WITH A PHD IN STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS, MASONRY MASONRY, HISTORIC MASONRY STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS, YES.
RESTORATIVE MASONRY, NO, BUT STRUCTURAL LOADS ARE STRUCTURAL LOADS.
SO I, UM, I, I'M SORRY, BUT I, I DO HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH, WITH THAT.
AND, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CRITICAL AT, AT ALL, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, A BUILDING IN WHICH IS SO HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT THAT WE ARE TRULY SEEKING OUT AND EXPLORING.
AND, AND I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT INTO THIS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IN VIRGINIA WE DO HAVE SEVERAL COMPANIES WHO THIS IS THEIR, WHAT THEY DO, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, TO THE, THE, THE NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING.
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, CREATING AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CAD DESIGNING THEIR OWN RETROFIT SUPPORTS AND REALLY JUST THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.
UM, SO I, MY CONCERN IS, IS BUILDING PRESERVATION AND PRESERVING AS MUCH OF THE STRUCTURE AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
AND MY CONCERN JUST DO, UH, IS, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
NO, NO, I, IT'S, AS WE CONTINUE TO REMOVE BRICK FROM THE OUTSIDE FOR MORE, MORE TESTING HOLES, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY PLAYING JENGA WITH, WITH A, A VENEER.
AND SO WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, REMOVE THE ARCHING ACTION OF THAT BRICK, WHERE THEY ALL HOLD EACH OTHER TOGETHER, THE, THE LIKELIHOOD OF ADDITIONAL LOSS OF BRICKS OR EVEN A, A COLLAPSE OF JUST THE VENEER, JUST THE VENEER, IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE, UM, IS, IS GREATER.
AND, AND FOR, FOR ME BEING A PRESERVATIONIST, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE PRESERVE AS MUCH OF THAT STRUCTURE AS POSSIBLE.
AND IF WE NEED TO CONTRACT OR BRING IN, UM, A, A SPECIALIST WHO, WHO DOES HAVE THESE CERTIFICATIONS AND ACCESS TO THESE VERY EXPENSIVE PIECES OF, OF
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EQUIPMENT, UM, THAT WE CAN, CAN DO.SO, SO, UH, WE WERE CALLED IN TO BASICALLY LOOK AT THIS AS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT AND YOUR SPEED AND WHAT YOU DID.
THAT SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN AND THE STAFF IS OUR PRIMARY CONCERN.
UM, WE DESIGN BUILDINGS, BUT WE ARE NOT SPECIALISTS IN THESE TYPES OF THINGS.
UH, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AS WELL.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THOSE SPECIALISTS, THEY COME AT A PREMIUM COSTS, I THINK OUR SCHOOL IS WORTH, IS WORTH THAT.
UM, WHAT, WHO DO YOU USUALLY CONTRACT WITH FOR THOSE TYPES OF FOLKS? WE WOULD'VE, I WOULD HAVE, YOU WOULD GIVE US A LIST.
I HAVE TO GET YOU SOME, SOME OF THAT INFORMATION.
BUT THESE, THESE ARE, UH, THERE ARE, AS JEFF SAID, THERE ARE TESTING AGENCIES THAT HAVE NONDESTRUCTIVE, UH, WAYS OF LOOKING INTO THE WALL, SO TO SPEAK.
UH, WE HAVE HIRED SOME OF THOSE AND WE HAD A BUILDING WHERE THE GYMNASIUM ROOF COLLAPSED, AND THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE REST OF THE SCHOOL, AND WE CAN'T SEE INSIDE THE CONCRETE BEAM.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO DETERMINE IF THERE WAS STEEL EMBEDDED IN THERE.
UM, IT WASN'T, WE COULDN'T GET CONFIRMATION ENOUGH TO REGAIN THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IN THE BUILDING.
SO THAT BUILDING ENDED UP BEING TORN DOWN, BUT TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION.
BUT THERE ARE AGENCIES OUT THERE THAT HAVE SOME OF THOSE TECHNOLOGY.
AS GREAT AS IT IS, IT'S, IT'S STILL, IT CAN'T REALLY SEE INSIDE THE WALL.
I MEAN, IT, IT WILL DO THE BEST IT CAN, BUT, UH, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY DO IT IS BY REMOVING THE BRAKE.
WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE BRICK BEING REMOVED, I'M LIKE, PLEASE TRY NOT TO BREAK IT.
YOU KNOW,
BUT, BUT WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU AND ASSIST YOU IN ANY WAY.
AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, WE WE WILL DO THAT.
IF, UH, IF YOU WANT US TO PAUSE, WE, WE WILL CERTAINLY PAUSE.
UM, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU AS THE BOARD AS, UH, WHICH DIRECTION YOU WANT TO TAKE, UM, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD WHEN IT COMES TO THE STABILIZATION.
UM, DO YOU HAVE MAY, I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE OUR MAINTENANCE KNOWS THAT OR IF WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK TOWARDS LANCE'S OR ANOTHER COMPANY, BUT HOW MUCH TIME, UM, HOW QUICKLY DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET THAT DONE? I KNOW GETTING THIS MATERIALS OUT OF THAT BUILDING IS SURE.
I DID REACH OUT TO LANCE, THEY GAVE ME A NAME OF A COMPANY THAT, UH, DOES SHORING, BECAUSE SHORING IS BASICALLY DESIGNED BY THE, BY THE SHORING CONTRACTOR.
UH, FOR THE PARTICULAR PURPOSE THAT'S INTENDED MM-HMM
I, I CAN'T, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO VENTURE TO SAY RIGHT NOW TO GET ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING.
SO IT'S, UH, THINGS DON'T MOVE FAST IN THIS ECONOMY RIGHT NOW, SO EVERYBODY'S BUSY.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD NOT BE SAFE TO HAVE ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES EVEN ENTER THE BUILDING JUST TO REMOVE THE SUPPLIES? I WOULD DEFER TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
UH, HE WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE CALL.
UM, WE WERE CONCERNED ENOUGH THAT WE DID NOT STAY IN THE BUILDING OURSELVES PERSONALLY, MORE THAN JUST ENOUGH TO GO UP THERE AND OBSERVE.
UM, SO I WOULD, UH, I WOULD ASK DAVID BEAM TO, TO MAKE THAT CALL.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS DAVID HAS LET, UH, SOME STAFF GO IN THERE AND GET SOME THINGS, BUT, UM, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE VERY, VERY SELECTIVE.
AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
UM, I WOULD NOT THINK ANYTHING WOULD HAPPEN SPONTANEOUSLY, BUT IT HAPPENS.
I MEAN, WE ALSO SEEN, WE NEED TO HEAR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.
I, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD, HOW QUICKLY WE COULD GET THAT DONE SO THAT WE CAN GET OUR, OUR STUDENTS MATERIALS AND OUR TEACHER STUFF OUT OF THAT BUILDING.
'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE CLOSED FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
SO THE, THE SOONER WE CAN GET THAT STUFF OUT, THE BETTER.
I'LL, I'LL PASS THE SHORING CONTRACTOR ON TO, UH, UM, DR.
IS THIS A HISTORICALLY CERTIFIED SHORING CONTRACTOR? I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE CAN, UH, WE CERTAINLY CAN ASK AND THEN WE, UH, CAN PUT OUT A, A CALL FOR, I, I WOULD THINK AS CLOSEST WE ARE TO DC BUT THERE IS A WHOLE, UH, FIELD OF CONTRACTORS OUT THERE THAT SPECIALIZE IN, YOU KNOW, MASONRY RESTORATION WORK.
I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, SEVERAL OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS OUT IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA ACTUALLY DO CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH, THEY HAVE TERM CONTRACTS AND, AND ENGAGE SOME OF THE HISTORICAL SPECIALISTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GET ON A, ON A, ON A JOCK WITH THAT, IF THAT EVEN NEEDS TO BE PUT OUT TO BID.
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RESOURCES AVAILABLE.WE'RE, WE'RE IN A GREAT PART, THIS COUNTRY TRUE TO, TO TAP SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES.
I FEEL LIKE I'M GONNA SUMMARIZE, YOU SUMMARIZED WHAT THE REPORT WAS.
I FEEL LIKE MY SUMMARY COMING INTO THIS TONIGHT WAS, UM, WE WANTED TO FIND A WAY TO GET THE SUPPLIES AND THE THINGS OUT OF THE BUILDING, HOW TO MAKE IT SECURE.
SO IF WE COULD COME OUT OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT WITH SOME SORT OF PLAN OF CONTACTING ASSURING COMPANY TO GET THAT STABILIZED, OR AT LEAST TALK TO DAVID BEAM AND SEE WHO CAN GO INTO THE BUILDING, WHAT CAN WE GET OUT? SO I THINK THAT'S FIRST GOAL.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE THING WE CAN MAYBE DO QUICKLY.
AND THEN THE SECOND GOAL TO FIGURE OUT MOVING FORWARD, REALLY WHAT THE WHOLE SCOPE OF THE WORK IS.
AND BY THE WHOLE SCOPE OF THE WORK.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING INTO THE BUILDING ONE, FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT NOW, BUT THAT DOES NEED TO INCLUDE THE NEW ROOF.
IT NEEDS TO INCLUDE THE HVAC, IT NEEDS TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING WITHIN THE BUILDING BECAUSE WHEN WE ARE PRESENTING THIS PLUMBING TO THE COUNTY, THE PLUMBING, ALL OF IT, THE PLUMBING ISSUES, WHEN WE'RE PRESENTING THIS TO THE COUNTY, RIGHT.
WE NEED TO SAY THIS IS THE WHOLE PACKAGE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO GET E WILSON BACK UP AND NOT JUST BACK UP BECAUSE WE PUT SOME BRICKS BACK UP ON THE WALL, BACK UP BECAUSE WE FIXED THE ENTIRE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO, SO THOSE ARE OUR TWO THINGS THAT I THINK IF WE COULD JUST GET SOME DIRECTION FOR OUR STAFF THIS EVENING SO THEY COULD GET TO WORK ON THAT.
'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE, CAN WE CONFIRM? I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS ON THE REGISTRY THOUGH.
THAT MAKES A BIG, I I KNOW IT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT IT, IN THE FIRMS ON THE REGISTRY, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND SO IT DOES MEAN THAT WE ARE BEHOLDEN TO ALL OF YES.
THE, THE RULES WITH REGARD TO THAT.
UM, AND IN SOME OF THE, JUST ON THE OUTSIDE THOUGH, IT'S JUST WHEN YOU'RE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU'RE ONLY OBLIGATED TO THE OUTSIDE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TO DO HISTORICALLY ACCURATE INTERNAL, NO INTERNALS.
UM, I DID FIND THERE WERE BLUEPRINTS FOR, UH, 15TH, DATED 15TH OF NOVEMBER, 2002, WHICH DID INCLUDE A PLUMBING AND HVAC, UM, RENOVATION, ALL NEW DOORS AND WINDOWS.
AND THEN AGAIN IN 2003, UM, THERE WAS STRUCTURAL INCREASED, UH, IMPROVEMENTS FOR PUTTING THE HVAC WEIGHT ONTO THE ROOF.
THE ROOF IS ABSOLUTELY DUE TO BE REPLACED.
THAT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE DOING ALL OF THIS.
I ASSUME THAT THE KIDS ARE GONNA BE OUT OF THIS SCHOOL FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
SO IT WOULD BE, UM, FINANCIALLY BENEFICIAL.
OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAD KIDS IN THE SCHOOL, WE WOULD HAVE TO BE HAVING CONTRACTORS IN THERE LATE AT NIGHT.
SO HAVING THE SCHOOL EMPTY IS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE FOR GETTING A FULL RENOVATION COMPLETE.
UM, BUT, UM, AT LEAST THOSE ITEMS WERE DONE.
I WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE PLUMBING ISSUES? BECAUSE I I, THIS HAS NEVER BEEN BROUGHT.
THE PLUMBING ISSUES HAVE NEVER BEEN BROUGHT, BROUGHT UP.
BRIAN, BRIAN SAID THE MAJORITY OF THE PIPES ARE FULL OF CONCRETE.
'CAUSE THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD SPEW OUT, LIKE DUMPED, LIKE CEMENT DOWN THE TOILETS OR SOMETHING, OR NO, DOWN IN THE PIPES THEMSELVES.
THE BLOCK BRIAN, SANITARY LINES DOWN THE SANITARY LINES.
THEY'RE ALL STUCK FULL, FULL OF CONCRETE.
THE ONES THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING, NOT THE ONES THAT WERE DECOMMISSIONED, THE ONES THAT DECOMMISSIONED, THEY FILLED 'EM ALL SO THEY CAN'T BE USED AGAIN.
WELL, THE DECOMMISSIONED ONES THOUGH, WE'RE NOT USING THOUGH, RIGHT.
SO, WELL, IT WAS JUST TO FIX A TEMPORARY PROBLEM OF THEM BACKING UP IN THE BUILDING.
THERE IS A CURRENT PROBLEM OF, I KNOW THAT STAFF MEMBERS HAVE TOLD ME, UM, WHEN TOILETS STOP WORKING, THE PLUMBING BEHIND THEM STOPS WORKING.
SO OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, THEY'RE REMOVING TOILETS.
SO WE'RE GETTING LESS AND LESS TOILETS IN THE BUILDING AND WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHY, OBVIOUSLY, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FIX THEM IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND I ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR, THE BUILDING, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS, THAT THE BUILDING ITSELF, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN BEST MEET THE NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS THAT GO TO THAT SCHOOL.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A RENOVATION, I THINK WE NEED TO GET A FULL SCOPE AB ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SECOND OPINION.
I THINK THE SCHOOL IS DESERVING OF HAVING THE HISTORIC SPECIALISTS COME IN.
UM, LET'S, LET'S DO THIS THE BEST.
LET'S, LET'S STOP, YOU KNOW, CUTTING CORNERS AND NOT, I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE CUTTING CORNERS.
I'M SAYING LIKE, LET, LET'S GET THE BEST AND LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THIS SCHOOL IS STILL, STILL STANDING AND HISTORIC AND BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE ONE OF MY FAVORITE SCHOOLS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR, YOUR MOLDINGS AND YOUR, YOUR OLD HINGES AND DOOR.
IT'S THE CHARACTER AND CHARM I THINK IS WORTH PRESERVING.
THANK YOU, MR. WELL, IS THERE A WAY, UH, WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO FIND A NEW SUPERINTENDENT, WHICH WE DID VERY GOOD JOB FINDING HIM.
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YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE KIND OF FOUND A COUPLE DIFFERENT SEARCH FIRM PEOPLE, AND THEN WE DISCUSSED WHO WAS GOOD AND KIND OF INTERVIEWED THEM.IS THERE A WAY TO FIND THESE PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FORENSIC STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING WORLD AND THAT HAVE ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE ABLE TO THEN INTERVIEW THEM AND SAY, WHAT'S YOUR DEAL? WHAT DO YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO SO THAT WE COULD THEN WE COULD THEN HIRE THAT COMPANY TO DO IT? I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT WOULD COST MONEY, COST A LOT OF MONEY TO, TO FIND DR. WRIGHT, BUT WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THE EXPENSE TO DO THAT.
SO THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT, TO FIND THE RIGHT COMPANY TO DO IT, SINCE IT'S A VERY DISTINCT THING AND IF THERE'S ANOTHER SCHOOL, ANOTHER PLACE.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD BE, AS THE BOARD, BE ABLE TO LOOK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT OPTIONS YOU MENTIONED THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AND SAY, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA BRING? PROVIDE, WHATCHA GONNA PROVIDE? WHAT, WHAT'S THE PRICE? NOT JUST GO FOR THE CHEAPEST PRICE, FIND THE BEST PRICE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID WITH DR. WRIGHT, THE SEARCH FIRM WE USED FOR THAT.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
I KNOW THIS ISN'T AN ACTION AGENDA, TIME TO MAKE AN A MOTION OR ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE THE TIME TO, TO GET A COUPLE, WHETHER IT'S YOU RECOMMEND 'EM OR OTHER PEOPLE RECOMMEND 'EM AND SAY, WELL, HERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT DO ALL THE STUFF YOU WANT 'EM TO DO.
AND THEN WE CAN ASSESS WHO WE WANNA DO AND SORT OF FIND SOMEBODY.
FOR THE INTERVIEW, FOR THE FULL SCOPE PROJECT, I JUST, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE HERE TONIGHT WITH A PLAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO SHORE UP THE BUILDING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND SO THAT WE CAN GET THE, GET THE STUFF OUT, THE MATERIALS OUT.
THE STUDENTS NEED THOSE MATERIALS.
THAT'S MY ONLY, MY ONLY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS TO SHORE IT UP.
THE REST OF IT WE KNOW IS GONNA BE A TIMELY DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
AND, BUT THE SHORING UP, I THINK IS THE PRIORITY RIGHT NOW.
I THINKING IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET ON BOARD AT LEAST GET SCHEDULED.
I MEAN, HERE'S THE THING, IF THE ROOF COLLAPSES, YOU AIN'T GONNA WORRY ABOUT NONE OF IT.
DID YOU SEE SIGNS THAT THE ROOF IS GOING TO COLLAPSE RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, I DIDN'T, I DID NOT SEE THAT PART IN THE REPORT.
IF, IF THERE'S A PAGE THAT I MISSED, THE REPORT SAYS THAT THE, UM, THE ROOF, THE BAR JOISTS ARE SETTING ON THE WALL THAT'S MOVING.
THAT HAS MOVED TO THE THREE INCHES, RIGHT.
SO IF YOU HAVE, WALL IS LOST, 40% OF IT'S BEARING CAPACITY.
SO WE COULD HAVE A BAD STORM ANY, ANY DAY, MEAN
I KNOW NO MATTER HOW SMALL THE CHANCE THAT THE ROOF WOULD COLLAPSE, WE CAN'T SEND OUR STAFF IN THERE.
I EVEN IF IT'S A 2% CHANCE I'LL VOLUNTEER TO GO IN THERE AND GET PEOPLE'S STUFF OUT TOMORROW, I, I WILL HAPPILY GO IN THERE AND, AND I DON'T THINK, I DON'T, WE'LL, TO OUR, WE'LL TALK TO OUR INSPECTOR.
WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST BE BREAKING INTO, I'M SAYING LET'S NOT ADVERTISE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT.
I WOULD, I WOULD DEFER TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
LET'S, YEAH, LET'S NOT OCCUPANCY TRIP KIDS.
UM, SO I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T THIS JUST TYPICALLY BE ONE OF OUR RFP SITUATIONS WHERE WE PUT THE EXACT SCOPE D DEPENDS, I THINK WITH THE SHORING UP BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE AND THE EMERGENCY SITUATION, UH, AND SPEAKING WITH MR. BALLANTINE EARLIER TODAY, WE COULD, WE COULD CONTRACT THE SHORING UP, UM, THROUGH EMERGENCY WITHOUT HAVING TO DO AN RFP.
UH, AND THEN ONCE WE GET IT SHORED UP, I THINK THE NEXT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROPOSALS, UH, FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, HISTORICAL, UH, ENGINEERS, WE WOULD DEVELOP AN RFP WITH THE BOARD'S INPUT.
UM, AND THEN, BUT WE WOULD PROBABLY, SIMILAR TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER, PUT OUT A, A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION FIRST, SEE WHAT POTENTIAL COSTS WOULD BE THEN WITH THE BOARD WAS GOOD WITH IT, THEN WE WOULD SEEK, UM, AN RFP.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH BASICALLY THE SECOND PART OF IT, PUTTING EXACTLY IN THE SCOPE OF WHAT QUALIFICATIONS WE WANT FOR THE COMPANY AND WHAT WE WANNA SEE THEM DO FOR INVESTIGATING THE BUILDING.
THE SHORING UP OF THE ROOF, THAT'S FINE.
YOU GUYS CAN, BUT WE, WE CAN START ON THE SHORING UP TOMORROW ON WORKING ON GETTING, FIGURING THAT OUT, GETTING, GETTING, UH, FINDING A FIRM THAT CAN DO THAT.
AND WE DO NOT NEED TO DO THE RFP BECAUSE OF THE URGENT NATURE OF IT.
SO, UM, COULD I PLEASE MOVE TO DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO ENGAGE IN A SEARCH FOR A FORENSIC STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING FIRM WHO IS VIRGINIA LICENSED, SPECIALIZING IN HISTORIC MASONRY TO PERFORM A FULL FORENSIC STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS FACADE AND ROOF EVALUATION AND FULL SITE ASSESSMENT.
THE FIRM MUST BE ABLE TO UTILIZE NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING AND INVESTIGATION METHODS TO PROVIDE CONCEPTUAL STRUCTURAL REPAIR RECOMMENDATIONS AS NECESSARY BASED ON A FULL STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS OF THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S FINE TO JUST PUT IN THE, IN YOUR REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, RIGHT? I MEAN, YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY, BECAUSE HE JUST SAID HE WOULD JUST
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THESE GUYS WHO CAME IN? I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, BUT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS.
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NOT NOTHING TO TO DO WITH THE BUILDING PER SE, BUT, UM, I DO WANT TO HOPE THAT THIS IS A, UH, WAKE UP CALL FOR ALL OF US IN THIS COMMUNITY.UM, FIRST OF ALL, I MEAN, I KNOW, I KNOW I'VE BEEN READING THINGS AND IT, I I DON'T, I DON'T PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO IT, BUT, UM, AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED, NONE OF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED.
UM, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS.
UM, SHOULD WE BE DOING STRUCTURAL INSPECTIONS, TWO, THREE EVERY THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS PROBABLY.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD, LOOK GOING FORWARD TO, TO DOING.
UM, ESPECIALLY ON THE OLDER BUILDINGS.
UM, OUR, THE SCHOOL CIP ACCOUNTS BEEN AT ZERO 0.00 FOR THE LAST FIVE, 10 YEARS.
UM, THE UNFORTUNATE PART ABOUT IT BEING AT ZERO IS THE SCHOOL HAS NO WAY TO PUT MONEY IN IT.
IT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY AND IT COMES FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY.
SO HOPEFULLY THIS'LL BE SOMEWHAT OF A WAKE UP CALL.
WE MISSED A, FOR ME, WE, AND, AND I'VE, I'VE BEEN HARPING ON IT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY THIS, THIS PAST SUMMER TO, TO APPLY FOR A, UM, 1% SALES TAX THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO CIP.
IT HAD TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WITH THE CURRENT 9 CENT TAX INCREASE, THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT 1% RIGHT NOW SURE WOULD LOOK GOOD.
UM, AND WHEN YOU SIT AND YOU THINK ABOUT THE 1%, AND I'M GONNA ADD, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS THIS TO THE TEACHERS IN E WILSON MORRISON, FOR EVERY A HUNDRED DOLLARS YOU SPENT IN THIS COUNTY, YOU'D BE GIVING $1 BACK TO THE SCHOOL.
I BET YOU RIGHT NOW YOU'D ENJOY GIVING IT $1.
I KNOW I'D HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING IT.
UM, SO AS FAR AS INCREASE IN TAXES, I DON'T, UH, ON THAT 1% SALES TAX, I JUST, I SEEN NO ISSUE WITH IT.
I THINK WE MISSED A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I HOPE IT COMES BACK AROUND NEXT YEAR SO WE CAN MAYBE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
BUT, UM, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THIS COST COMES IN AT, UM, IT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE.
I DON'T CARE HOW ANYBODY LOOKS AT IT.
IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE FOUND SOMEWHERE.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND SOME GRANTS AND SOME MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE STATE.
MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE REGISTRY, THAT KIND OF LIMITS IT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WE CAN FIND SOME OTHER STUFF IN THE HISTORICAL, HOPEFULLY IN THE HISTORICAL THAT'LL HELP.
UM, BUT TO BE ALL HONEST, IT, I MEAN, IT'S NONU SENSE IN SUGAR CAN, WE'RE GONNA BE A COUPLE YEARS, IT'LL BE A COUPLE, THREE YEARS BEFORE YOU SEE THE SCHOOL BACK UP AND RUNNING OR WHATEVER.
UM, IT'S JUST WHAT THE REALITY IS, IT'S NO SENSE IN US THINKING ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE A LONG PROCESS.
THE ENGINEERING PART OF IT'S GONNA TAKE I WOULD SAY PROBABLY SIX MONTHS TO, TO, TO NINE MONTHS TO GET IT, TO GET IT COMPLETE.
UM, IT, IT, SO THE KIDS ARE SAFE NOW.
IT'S NOT AN IDEAL WORKING SITUATION, BUT THEY ARE SAFE.
UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT, BESIDES BUILDING, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT SOME REDISTRICTING PROBABLY NEXT YEAR AND MAYBE TRYING TO GET THE, THE KIDS ALL BACK IN ONE FACILITY, UM, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE, THE BIG THING THAT'S, TO ME WOULD BE THE BIG ISSUE.
BUT, UM, IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE A WHILE.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND, UM, I'M HOPING WE CAN, WE CAN COME UP WITH IT AND FIGURE IT OUT FROM HERE, BUT, UM, I JUST HOPE THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL.
SO, UM, AS FOR THE TIME ESTIMATE, I'VE, I'VE SPENT SOME CONSIDERABLE TIME LOOKING AT SIMILAR REPAIRS WITH USING RETROFIT AND, AND WHATNOT.
AND SINCE THE SCHOOL IS CURRENTLY CLOSED AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORK WITH CERTAIN TIME CONSTRAINTS, FROM WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT, UM, I DON'T SEE WHY THIS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE READY IF WE REPAIR IT TO BE REOPENED FOR NEXT YEAR.
WHAT, WHERE IS THE LONG TIMELINE COMING FROM? UM, I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN A FULL REPORT YET.
I, I THINK IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE ULTIMATE
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SOLUTION IS.UH, IF, UH, THE BOARD DECIDES TO PROCEED WITH A RETROFIT TYPE BRICK TIE, RIGHT, THEN YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD, COULD REOPEN NEXT YEAR.
HOWEVER, IF A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, NOT NECESSARILY US, BUT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER DETERMINES THAT THAT, UH, MASONRY WALL HAS MOVED TO THE POINT WHERE IT SHOULD NOT REMAIN, THEN I THINK YOU'RE IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT CATEGORY OF TIMEFRAMES.
SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS HAS HAPPENED IN A TWO WEEK PERIOD, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIND ANSWERS.
I, I DON'T WANNA GIVE PEOPLE WORSE CASE SCENARIO BECAUSE, AND, AND I ALSO DON'T WANNA GIVE YOU THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, BUT, UM, THE, THE RESOURCES THAT, THAT I HAVE, I, I, I HAVE LOOKED INTO THIS AND I, AND I WOULD THINK THAT IT IS, IF WE GET ON THIS AND GET THIS SECOND OPINION ASAP, AND WE CAN GET PROPOSALS IN PLACE, PUT IT OUT TO BID, WE, I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T HAVE THE ROOF REPLACED AND THE, THE BRICK RESECURED AND HAVE IT SOUND AND READY TO GO FOR THE, FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR NEXT YEAR.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT OUR GOAL.
UM, I THINK, I THINK IT ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER WILL, UM, CERTIFY AND SIGN OFF, SIGN OFF ON.
AND I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANOTHER STRUCTURAL ENGINEER MM-HMM
I MEAN, RIGHT AT THIS POINT, IT PAINED ME TO AGREE WITH DAVID BEAM TO, TO CLOSE THE SCHOOL DOWN, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CHOICE HERE.
IT'S, IT, NO, BUT NONE OF US CAN PREDICT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
AND I'M GLAD THAT WE DID GET THE, THE CHILDREN OUT AND EVERYBODY IS SETTLED AT THIS POINT.
SO I THINK THE LEAST DISRUPTION WOULD BE TO JUST STAY WHERE WE'RE FOR THIS YEAR, BUT HOPE FOR THE BEST NEXT YEAR.
I, I THINK, UH, YOUR APPROACH IS, IS CORRECT WITH GET A SHORING CONTRACTOR IN THERE, GET THE BUILDING SHORED UP, AND THEN PROCEED WITH YOUR RFP PROCESS.
FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF EXPERTS ARE OUT THERE, WHAT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS ARE, AND WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS.
AND I THINK IF YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD INCREMENTALLY, I THINK EVENTUALLY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE THESE FOLKS AN ACCURATE TIMELINE.
BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GUESSING, UH, AND YOUR ESTIMATE OF TWO TO THREE YEARS IS, I TEND TO AGREE WITH IT, BUT YOU COULD EASILY, YOU CAN, YOU MAY FIND SOMEBODY WHO WILL CERTIFY AND RECOMMEND THAT THIS IS A SOLUTION, AND THE BOARD MAY CHOOSE TO GO WITH THAT, AND IT COULD BE A YEAR.
SO, UH, IT'S JUST, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH'S JUST NOT ENOUGH KNOWN RIGHT NOW.
I LIKE TO SET STANDARDS AND EXPECTATIONS HIGH, AND THEN, AND THEN WE JUST, WE MEET THEM.
UM, AS FOR THE, THE MONEY SITUATION, UM, TO EXPLAIN SOME OF, I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD IN THE NEWS ABOUT THE, UM, THE BOARD OF SUPER, THE COUNTY'S INABILITY TO PASS AN AUDIT RIGHT NOW.
SO HOW THAT AFFECTS US IS BECAUSE OUR BOARD THINK OF US LIKE, LIKE THE CHILDREN.
WE ARE COMPLETELY DEPENDENT UPON THE COUNTY TO GIVE US MONEY.
WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A TAXING AUTHORITY OURSELVES.
ANY MONEY WE RECEIVE, EVEN IF IT'S A GRANT, IT ALL FLOWS THROUGH THE COUNTY.
SO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ACCOUNTS, OUR, OUR CARRYOVER COSTS.
SO ANY UNSPENT MONEY IN OUR BUDGET, AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR AFTER THE COUNTY PASSES THEIR AUDIT, THEY RETURN THAT MONEY TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE USE FOR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OF THAT MONEY COME BACK TO US IN WHAT, ABOUT FOUR YEARS? ABOUT, YEAH.
SO, BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T PASS THEIR AUDIT, THEN THEY CAN'T GIVE US, THEY CAN'T RECONCILE THE ACCOUNTS AND SEND ANY MONEY BACK TO US.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, MY BROKEN RECORD SPEECH FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS IS ABOUT THE REFERENDUM VOTE TO, TO PROVIDE MEALS TAX MONEY.
YOU PAY A FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT MEALS TAX ON ALL FOOD AND BEVERAGE, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO COME SOLELY AND EXCLUSIVELY TO SCHOOL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THE COUNTY PLACES THAT MONEY IN THEIR GENERAL FUND.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY EITHER.
MY CONCERN, IF WE WERE TO WHICH IT, THE SHIP IS SAILED, IT'S NOT EVEN UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT THE 1% SALES TAX, WE WOULD NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE WORDING AND THE CONTRACTS WITH THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA SEE AN EXTRA 1% TACKED ON YOUR GROCERY BILL AND YOUR CLOTHING BILL AND EVERY BILL TO THEN HAVE THE COUNTY DECIDE TO KEEP THAT MONEY TOO AND JUST ADD IT TO THEIR GENERAL FUND, TO NOT ACTUALLY MAKE IT TO THE SCHOOLS.
IT'S TIME THAT THE MONEY IN THIS COUNTY THAT WAS INTENDED FOR THE SCHOOLS START GETTING TO THE SCHOOLS SO THAT WE CAN REPLACE ROOFS ON SCHEDULE AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
EVEN THOUGH THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WAS, WAS NOT, IT, IT, IT'S JUST A BAD LUCK SITUATION, TIME, AGE.
SO, UM, KEEP THAT IN MIND AT THE VOTING POLLS.
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MONEY BACK TO OUR SCHOOLS AS IT WAS INTENDED.I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DID.
THANK YOU TO JEFF WHO MAY OR MAY NOT STILL BE WITH US, UM, FOR FLYING IN AND, UH, AND, UM, JUST HELPING US IN THAT EMERGENCY SITUATION.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I KNOW THAT OUR STAFF WAS VERY THANKFUL THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GET HERE AND WALK THEM THROUGH THAT.
[4.A. First Reading of Policy JL - E - Dr. Costner]
ON TO OUR ACTION AGENDA THIS EVENING.FIRST UP, WE HAVE THE FIRST READING OF POLICY JL DASH E, DR.
DO YOU NEED TO SAY NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YOU ALL? ALRIGHT, I WILL DO THAT.
ALL RIGHT, MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS THE, UM, FIRST READING POLICY JL DASH E.
AND ACTUALLY WHAT IT IS, IS OUR FUNDRAISING FORM.
WE JUST WANTED TO, WE MET WITH BOOKKEEPERS ADMINISTRATION, WE WANTED TO UPDATE OUR FUNDRAISING FORM FOR FULL, MAKE SURE WE HAD FULL TRANSPARENCY.
AND OUR BOOK BOOKKEEPERS KNEW ABOUT IT.
AND ALSO, UM, WE INCLUDED GRANTS ON IT.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE WAS WRITING A GRANT, THAT IT COULD BE USED WITHIN THE SCHOOL AND THAT IT WOULD NOT, UM, CAUSE ANOTHER PROBLEM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD OR COULD NOT DO.
WE DIDN'T WANT RESOURCES TO GO TO WASTE.
SO THAT'S WHY THE FORM HAS BEEN UPDATED.
THIS IS JUST THE, THE FIRST READING OF IT.
THERE'S NO MOTION THAT'S NEEDED.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY SUGGESTIONS OR, UM, WHATEVER, I, UM, WORK ON IT.
MY ONLY QUESTION IS, UM, THIS IS NOT FOR, UM, SEPARATELY RUN ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE SCHOOL, LIKE THE PTO WELL, IT WOULD BE GOOD THE PTO SUBMITTED, SO WE KNOW WHAT MONEY, WHAT FUNDS ARE BEING RAISED FOR.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, UM, IF THEY WERE RAISING MONEY FOR, AND I'M JUST GONNA KEEP IT SIMPLE LIKE WIDGETS OR, YOU KNOW, CRAYONS OR GLUE STICKS, AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE HAVE THOSE SOMEWHERE STOCKPILED OR WHATEVER, WE CAN TELL THEM THAT, NO, THAT THIS, WE ALREADY HAVE THESE, PLEASE DON'T RAISE MONEY FOR THAT.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WHAT THE MONEY'S BEING RAISED FOR THAT THEY CAN USE.
AND IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO WASTE.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR PTO CLUBS, UM, ANY, ANY TYPE OF ORGANIZATION SO THAT WE, WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE MONEY'S BEING RAISED FOR, WHAT IF IT'S NOT FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC.
SO EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW, THE PTO AT RESI HAS THEIR, OUR LARGEST FUNDRAISER GOING ON.
AND SO WE'RE LIKE OVER $10,000, WHICH IS AWESOME, BUT WE DON'T RAISE IT FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
LIKE, IT MIGHT GO A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THIS GRADE'S, UM, FIELD TRIP.
IT MIGHT GO FOUR A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR SOMETHING THAT THE PE TEACHERS WANT.
LIKE IT'LL BE DIFFERENT REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAN THAT THE PTO BOARD.
BUT YOU JUST, YOU JUST ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO KNOW.
LIKE IT'S GOING TOWARDS FIELD TRIPS, IT'S GOING TOWARDS.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE MIGHT USE IT ON, WELL, IT, IT NEEDS TO, WELL, TO HELP WITH PARENTS AND TO HELP THINGS.
SOMETIMES IT HELPS THEM TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING TO SO THAT, OR THE RAISING MONEY AND THAT THE QUESTION IS SO THAT THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT FOR WHAT IT'S BEING RAISED FOR.
SO IF IT'S BEING RAISED FOR FIELD TRIPS, T-SHIRTS FOR TEACHERS OR T-SHIRTS OR, UM, ATTENDANCE RECOGNITION, THAT THAT'S ENOUGH TO SAY BECAUSE AN ATTENDANCE RECOGNITION COULD BE AN ICE CREAM PARTY ON, ON A FRIDAY, OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, UM, EXTRA PE EQUIPMENT SO THEY CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT GAME AT RECESS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO IT'S, IT'S, YOU CAN'T GET AS VERY SPECIFIC, BUT JUST KIND OF TO HELP UNDERSTAND SO THAT IF THERE EVER WAS A QUESTION THAT SOME PARENT ASKS, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHERE'S THIS MONEY GOING TOWARDS? OR THE SCHOOL BOARD IS WORKING SO HARD TO GET FUNDS FOR US.
WHY, WHY DO WE NEED TO RAISE MONEY? UM, SO IT IS JUST, IT'S JUST TO KIND OF HELP PROVIDE CLARIFICATION ON THAT FOLLOW UP.
SO IF, SO WE DO LOTS OF LITTLE FUNDRAISERS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO IS ONE BLANKET, PTO, LIKE THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT THE PTO WILL BE RAISING MONEY FOR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
JUST ONE, LIKE ONE BLANKET, ONE OR TWO.
LIKE EACH TIME WE SELL WOODEN ROSES FOR VALENTINE'S DAY, BOO GRAHAMS FOR HALLOWEEN, WEIRD ANTLER HATS FOR CHRISTMAS.
LIKE, DO WE NEED TO DO ONE OF THESE FORMS? 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, A LOT OF FORMS SUBMITTED.
IT COULD BE A LOT OF PAPERWORK THAT'S SENT.
AND SO THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO LIKE TO HAVE A START TIME AND AN END TIME FOR FUNDRAISERS SO THAT WE DO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS WHETHER IF IT FALLS
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IN, IF THEY'RE DOING IT WITH FOOD, UM, THAT IT HAS TO FALL WITHIN OUR WELLNESS POLICY.SO THAT YOU DON'T WANT, BUT YOU ALSO, WE DO HAVE A POLICY ABOUT FUNDRAISERS.
YOU DON'T WANT STUDENTS GOING AROUND AND SOLICITING, GOING DOOR TO DOOR.
SO I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO DANCE AROUND YOUR QUESTION.
UM, IT CAN BE ONE, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, ONE, ONE WILL BE FINE.
RIGHT NOW, IT MAY BE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TWEAKING IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, WE DON'T KNOW, UM, WHAT ALL IS BEING DONE.
UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO GET, BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE THERE ARE, YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF FUNDRAISERS TO WHERE THAT THE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, UH, OR THE PARENTS.
I MEAN, SPEAKING OF MYSELF AS A PARENT, SOMETIMES I JUST SAY, OKAY, HERE'S $20.
JUST DON'T, DON'T BRING HOME ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE, BUT IT'S THAT, THAT'S, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE.
WHAT ABOUT, UM, TEACHERS THAT ARE HAVING A SPECIFIC CROWDFUND FOR SOMETHING.
SO A LOT OF TIMES AT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, THEY'LL WANNA HAVE DIFFERENT CREATIVE SEATINGS.
SO I KNOW YOU SAID LIKE, OKAY, WELL LET US KNOW BECAUSE MAYBE WE HAVE THIS IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE FURNITURE IN THEIR CLASSROOM, BUT IT'S THAT THEY WANT SOME OTHER KIND OF SEATING ARRANGEMENT FOR THEIR KIDS.
SO THEY'RE GONNA FUND THAT FOR THEIR CLASSROOM AS AN INDIVIDUAL TEACHER.
WELL, BUT WITH THAT ALSO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE FURNITURE THAT THEY'RE PURCHASING IS FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL, NICE FURNITURE HERE.
UM, BUT IF, IF IT'S FROM SOME COMPANY THAT'S NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE, IT MAY NOT HOLD SOMEBODY MY WEIGHT.
AND SO IT WOULD BE BAD IF YOU WERE HAVING A MEETING AND THERE'S AN ADULT SITTING THERE IN THE CHAIR SLOWLY SINKING OR BREAKING.
SO WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FOR COMMERCIAL USE, THE SAME AS WITH PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO ADD PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, BUT TO ADD COMMERCIAL GRADE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
IT TAKES TIME, IT TAKES A, IT, THE FUNDING THERE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO REGULATIONS FOR WHEN THE EQUIPMENT IS PUT INSTALLED THAT IT HAS TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE ASK FOR THOSE THINGS.
UM, SO YES, IF IT'S DONE FOR WITHIN THE CLASSROOM, THEY WOULD NEED TO FILL OUT ONE OF THESE FORMS. OKAY.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY AN OVERALL GREAT IDEA BECAUSE THEN WE DO HAVE RECORDS OF ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT COME IN BECAUSE IT JUST GOES TO SHOW AGAIN, LIKE THE COUNTY MONEY THAT THEY PROVIDE US DOESN'T REALLY COVER ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO FULLY MAKE.
IS, IS THERE A FORM THAT, SO THIS IS THE FUNDRAISING FORM.
IS THERE A FORM OF FORM OF SAYING, WELL, HERE'S HOW WE EXPENDED THE MONEY.
A FORM THAT HAD, THAT'S NORMALLY HELD THROUGH THE BOOKKEEPER.
THIS, THIS IS JUST SO THAT THEY CAN GET, THAT THEY KNOW THAT MONEY'S COMING IN THE BOOKKEEPER KNOWS THAT THE MONEY'S COMING IN, THEY KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO, SO THEY HAVE THE INPUT.
AND THAT WAY THERE'S NEVER, WELL, IN MY EXPERIENCE, IN MY CAREER EXPERIENCE, I HAVE KNOWN SOMETIMES THAT SOME OF THE FUNDRAISER MONEY DOESN'T MAKE IT TOWARDS WHAT THE FUNDS ARE BEING RAISED FOR.
THEY MAY MAKE IT TOWARDS SOMEBODY ELSE'S PERSONAL USE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT SET UP THERE.
BUT NO, THERE'S, THERE'S NO DOCUMENTATION THAT COMES TO US TO SAY ALL THIS MONEY WAS SPENT ON THESE ITEMS. NO, SIR.
SEEMS LIKE THAT'D BE A GOOD, I, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA START AND SAY, WELL, YOUR FUNDRAISING, THIS IS, WE, WE, WE WANT, WE WANNA KNOW THAT YOUR FUNDRAISING, WELL, YOU RAISED THE MONEY.
WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S ACTUALLY SPENT ON THE THING.
PENCE WAS SAYING, PURPOSE OF SALE COULD BE GENERAL, GENERAL FUND FOR SIE JEFFRIES, AND THEN, AND THEN IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN IT'S SPENT, IT WOULD BE, WELL, IT CAME OUTTA THAT GENERAL FUND, BUT THIS IS BEING SPENT ON A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THIS TEACHER IN SECOND GRADE.
OR IT SEEMS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A FULL CIRCLE.
WELL BOOK, I THINK THAT'S PART AUDIT BOOKS.
SO EACH BOOKKEEPER AT EACH SCHOOL WILL DO AN AUDIT EVERY YEAR AND SUBMIT THEM TO ROBERT.
SO SAME, SOME OF THE SAME NOTES THAT I HAD HAD ON IT WAS, THIS IS GREAT AT THE GETTING THE PERMISSION BEFORE, BUT IT DOESN'T RE REQUIRE THE FINAL ACCOUNTING, HOW MUCH WAS COLLECTED, HOW IT WAS SPENT, WHO IT WAS DEPOSITED.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE BOOKKEEPER GETS THAT.
UM, BUT COULD WE NOT HAVE A FORM THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT THAT WAY? THE WHOLE, ALL THE INFORMATION IS, IS JUST CLOSED OUT TOGETHER.
SO YOU HAVE A FINANCIAL CLOSEOUT, IT'S GOT THE REVENUE EXPENSES, THE NET PROCEEDS WHERE IT WAS DEPOSITED.
UM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, I MEAN, THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S THE ROLE FOR WHAT THE BOOKKEEPER DOES, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY KEEP THAT INFORMATION.
THEY KEEP IT IN THEIR RECORDS, THEIR LOGS, AND THEN WHEN IT'S AUDITED, THAT'S WHEN IT'S CHECKED TO MAKE SURE IT IS HANDLED AND DISTRIBUTED APPROPRIATELY.
I DON'T THINK ANOTHER FORM IS NECESSARY UNLESS WE HAVE TO.
IT'S, IT'S FRUSTRATING ENOUGH THAT, I MEAN, THEY DO DOZENS OF FUNDRAISERS AT THE SCHOOLS.
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FUNDRAISER ONCE A MONTH.THE PTO IS DOING A FUNDRAISER AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH AND HAVING TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE FORMS ARE FILLED OUT ALL THE TIME.
PLUS THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR TIME AND ATTENTION SHOULD BE ON OUR STUDENTS AND THE DAY-TO-DAY WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN OUR SCHOOLS AND NOT, LET'S CREATE MORE FORMS FOR OUR STAFF TO FILL OUT.
WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S REALLY THAT EXTENSIVE TO ASK SOMEBODY WHO JUST IN CHARGE OF A FUNDRAISER, HOW MUCH MONEY THEY ENDED UP COLLECTING AND THE FORMAT, BECAUSE BEFORE YOUR TIME ON THE BOARD, WE ACTUALLY HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
I, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD LET THAT DECISION AND MAYBE WHATEVER SAFETY PROTOCOLS WE PUT IN PLACE, WE ASK ROB TO, YOU KNOW, ROB SHOULD BE THE ONE TO SAY, DO WE NEED MORE SAFETY PROTOCOLS IN PLACE OR ARE WE SAFE? I DON'T THINK I'M ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL SAFETY PROTOCOLS IN PLACE.
THE FUNDRAISERS THAT I'VE WORKED ON, I MEAN, I'M LOGGING HOW MANY LITTLE MONEY WAS, WAS COLLECTED.
I WOULD THINK IT MIGHT SIMPLIFY ROB'S JOB TO JUST IDENTIFY WHAT WAS COLLECTED.
UM, I I DON'T KNOW IF EVER IF YOU HE ALREADY DO THAT, HUH? HE MIGHT ALREADY DO THAT.
ROB, DO YOU ALREADY DO THAT OR WOULD IT BE EASY FOR YOU TO JUST HAVE A, A BACKSIDE OF THIS FORM THAT JUST SAYS, TOTAL FUNDS COLLECTED AND, AND GIVE YOU A DOLLAR AMOUNT
THE, THE BOOKKEEPERS DO A, UH, ON THEIR SCHOOL ACTIVITY FUND FOR SCHOOL SPONSORED FUNDRAISERS.
THEY DO A REPORT EACH MONTH ON THEIR ACTIVITY FUND AND SHOWING, YOU KNOW, INFLOW AND OUTFLOW OF MONEY.
UM, IT DOESN'T, IT MAY NOT SHOW SPECIFICALLY EACH FUNDRAISER THAT WAS DONE BY EACH CLUB OR EACH GROUP OR EACH SPORTS DEAN.
THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL AND ALSO PTO IS A SEPARATE ENTITY.
THAT, SO THAT DOES THE, UM, WITH THAT, THAT INFORMATION IS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A DONATION.
WE HAVE OUR OWN OWN BANK ACCOUNT, AND THEN THEY OWN A DONATION TO THE SCHOOL.
AND, AND SO THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BANK ACCOUNT.
WHICH IS WHY I WAS SPECIFICALLY ASKING ABOUT THE PTO.
'CAUSE I WASN'T SURE, 'CAUSE WE ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE AND LIKE, HERE'S WHAT I'LL, IN OUR MINUTES REPORT AND ALL THAT, I THIS FOR WHAT PTO WOULD SUBMIT AND DO WOULD BE FOR INFORMATION JUST, JUST TO HELP TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
UM, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I HAD LISTED WAS, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE LIKE A LITTLE DISCLAIMER ON HERE WITH THE VENDOR CONTRACTS TO MAKE CLEAR THAT APPROVING A FUNDRAISER DOES NOT GIVE THE EMPLOYEE AUTHORITY TO SIGN A CONTRACT, INCUR THE DEBT, OR FINANCIALLY OBLIGATE THE SCHOOL.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THE INSTANCE THAT I'M THINKING OF WHERE I DON'T WANNA GIVE THE DETAILS OF, BUT, UM, THE SCHOOL ENDED UP GETTING COMMITTED TO A DEBT ELSEWHERE, AND WE COULD, WELL, WHEN IT'S AN OUTSIDE GROUP, LIKE THE PTO, I MEAN ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD COME ON THE PTO, RIGHT? LIKE, THAT IS NOT, THE SCHOOL IS NOT MAKING THAT ARRANGEMENT WITH RIGHT? LIKE OURS IS SIGNED ALL THROUGH THE PT.
IF THE PTO, IT'S THE SAME AS LIKE THE, YOU DO HAVE SOME BOOSTER CLUBS THAT ARE THEIR OWN ENTITY AND THEY, THEY, THEY'RE SIGNING INTO WHETHER, UM, AND I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, THEA, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY, SOMEONE SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH A, UM, JOE'S COOKIE COMPANY MM-HMM
AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD SELL, YOU KNOW, 600 DONUTS, CONTAINERS OF COOKIES MM-HMM
THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IT THEY ARE IS GETTING THEMSELVES INTO CONTRACT WITH SELLING THAT.
UM, BUT IF THAT THE PTO DID THAT, THEN THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THEIR, THEIR REALM.
SINCE THEY'RE, UM, NOT PART OF THE SYSTEM.
I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT THE PTO IN PARTICULAR WITH THAT.
I, I WASN'T THINKING OF THE PTO IN PARTICULAR WITH, BUT IT CAN BE EXTRAPOLATED TO LIKE ANY OF THE BOOSTERS THAT RUN AT THE SECONDARY
AND THEN DOES ANY OF THIS APPLY TO LIKE THE ONLINE FUNDRAISING? LIKE IF SOMEBODY'S JUST CREATING A GOFUNDME ACCOUNT, LIKE IF THEY WERE GONNA CREATE A GOFUNDME ACCOUNT FOR, FOR E WILSON.
AND, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED AT ALL, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER STATES WITH, WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S SICK OR WHATNOT, SOMEBODY WILL START A GOFUNDME TO SAVE THIS PERSON, AND THEN TURNS OUT IT WASN'T ACTUALLY EVEN IF PERSON THAT'S, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY WAS TO SAY THEY WANTED TO DO A GOFUNDME AS A FUNDRAISER, IT WOULD BE DENIED BECAUSE IT WOULD BE DENIED THE OBLIGATIONS THAT, UM, ARE ATTACHED TO THE GOFUNDME, HOW MUCH, WHAT PERCENTAGE, UM, THAT GOFUNDME TAKES, UM, IN COMPARISON TO WHAT PERCENTAGE THEY GIVE TO THE ENTITY THAT THEY ARE HELPING TO FUND.
UM, AND THAT'S THE, UM, HOPEFULLY TOO WITHIN THE PRINCIPLES WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, I GO BACK
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TO JOE'S COOKIES, UM, WHAT PERCENTAGE GOES TO THE SCHOOL VERSUS WHAT PERCENTAGE GOES TO THE COMPANY.SO, UM, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO LOOK AT, BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU WOULD, THE VERBIAGE YOU USE, IF YOU'LL SHARE IT WITH, UM, THE BOARD AND THE BOARD CAN SEND IT AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT TO SEE IF IT NEEDS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS.
WHATEVER THE BOARD WISHES, I'LL BE GLAD TO DO.
[4.B. Approval of the renewal contract with BrightView Landscape Services, Inc. - Dr. Costner]
APPROVAL OF THE RENEWAL CONTRACT WITH BRIGHTVIEW LANDSCAPE SERVICES, DR.UH, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WE HAVE BEEN IN, UM, IN CON, WELL, A CONTRACT WITH BRIGHTVIEW LANDSCAPE SERVICES.
THIS IS, THEY'RE UP FOR RENEWAL WITHIN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT THAT WILL SIGN WITHIN THE RFP THAT EVERY, UM, EVERY YEAR THEY CAN ASK FOR AN INCREASE BASED ON THE CPI.
AND THE CPI INCREASE FOR LANDSCAPING THIS YEAR WAS 4.4%, SO THEY DID ASK FOR AN INCREASE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FOR $3,149 AND 92 CENTS.
UM, THIS IS WITHIN THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT INCREASE FOR OUR LANDSCAPING, UM, CONTRACT.
UM, SO WE DO BRING IT FORTH TO MOVE THAT THE WARREN COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD APPROVES THE FIRST YEAR RENEWAL CONTRACT WITH BRIGHTVIEW LANDSCAPE SERVICES AND THE AMOUNT OF $74,738 AND 92 CENTS FOR GROUND MAINTENANCE SERVICES AND AUTHORIZES THE SUPERINTENDENT TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT.
COSTNER? ARE WE HAPPY WITH THEIR SERVICES? UH, YES, SIR.
THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN RESPONSIVE TO ANY CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD OR, OR THINGS THEY HAVE WORKED WELL.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE WARREN COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD APPROVES THE FIRST YEAR RENEWAL CONTRACT WITH BRIGHTVIEW LANDSCAPE SERVICES, INC.
IN THE AMOUNT OF $74,738 92 CENTS FOR GROUND MAINTENANCE SERVICES AND AUTHORIZES THE SUPERINTENDENT TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
[4.C. MOU with Salvation Army Red Shield Youth Center of Front Royal - Dr. Costner]
NEXT IS THE MOU WITH SALVATION ARMY RED SHIELD YOUTH CENTER OF FRONT ROYAL.UM, BOARD MEMBERS, AS YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, THE RED SHIELD, UM, YOUTH CENTER, UH, IS SPONSORED BY THE SALVATION ARMY THAT WE DO HAVE AN MOU, THIS WOULD BE THEM COMING BACK AGAIN FOR OFFERING AFTERSCHOOL CARE.
THE AFTERSCHOOL CARE HAS BEEN MOVED TO LFK.
THEY WERE ORIGINALLY AT E WILSON MORRISON.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ORIGINALLY ABOUT THE MOU THAT WAS CHANGED.
UM, AND THIS, THE MOU THAT CURRENTLY YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS WHAT THE BOARD RECOMMENDED TO BE CHANGED THAT WE APPROVED LAST MM-HMM
NOTHING ELSE HAS CHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE LOCATION.
UM, SO WE BRING IT FORWARD TO, UM, TONIGHT FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE MOU QUESTIONS FOR DR.
AND I, I FEEL BAD EVEN ASKING BECAUSE WE, I, I MISSED THIS IN THE FIRST ONE IS I ASSUME IT DIDN'T CHANGE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MOU ON PAGE TWO UNDER THE HEADING DECISION MAKING PROCESS, UM, IF IT SAYS IF PARTNERS CANNOT COME TO A MUTUAL AGREEMENT, THE LEAD AGENCY WILL HAVE FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY.
BUT THE MOU IDENTIFIES THE SALVATION ARMY AS THE LEAD AGENCY.
SO I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT KIND OF GIVES THEM MORE POWER THAN IT GIVES THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
UH, IT, TO BE QUITE HONEST, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE AND THEY DON'T, AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE CANNOT COME TO A MUTUAL AGREEMENT, THEN THEY MAY WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE YOUTH SHIELD PROGRAM.
BUT IT WILL NOT BE, WE CAN SAY YOU CAN NO LONGER USE OUR FACILITIES.
SO WE DO STILL HAVE THAT OPTION.
JUST BECAUSE WE GET INTO THIS AGREEMENT, THEY, THAT DOESN'T GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO COME IN AND, UM, NO MA'AM.
THEY HAVE, AND IN OUR EXPERIENCE SO FAR, THEY'VE BEEN VERY THERE HASN'T ACCOMMODATING AND FLEXIBLE WITH, UM, TRYING TO WORK WITH THIS IN PARTICULARLY LIKE WITH THE MOVE AND STUFF BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME BOAT AS ALL THE TEACHERS THAT WERE BEHIND ME.
THEIR EQUIPMENT IS LOCKED UP AT E WILSON MAR RIGHT NOW.
SO IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE APPROVAL BE GIVEN TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TO SIGN THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN SALVATION ARMY, RED SHIELD, YOUTH CENTER OF FRONT ROYAL, AND WARREN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
[5.A. Board Member Requests]
BOARD REQUESTS.MS. SALEMS? I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY REQUESTS.
[02:15:01]
OF MY REQUESTS DURING THE WILSON CONVERSATION.MY REQUEST IS THAT, UH, WE LOOK INTO, UH, POSSIBLY NEXT FISCAL YEAR, PUT THIS IN OUR BUDGET.
UM, ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS NEED TO BE REGULARLY EXAMINED BY AN ENGINEER AND WE NEED TO START AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH, UM, OUR SCHOOLS.
SKYLINE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS EXTREMELY OLD AS ROADS.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD RENOVATIONS DONE THERE RECENTLY, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAD FULL INSPECTIONS, UM, DONE BY AN ENGINEER ON THOSE BUILDINGS.
UM, SO, UH, AGAIN, LFK IS BRICK AND MASONRY.
SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, GET THOSE BUILDINGS LOOKED AT FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF.
MR. MCFADDEN? UH, NO REQUESTS.
[6. Closed Meeting]
SALE, COULD YOU READ US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? THIS MOTION IS MADE THAT THIS OPEN PUBLIC MEETING OF THE WARREN COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD BECOME A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1.THE SCHOOL BOARD DESIRES TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING MATTER IN A CLOSED MEETING.
SECTION 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 A ONE, DISCUSSION, CONSIDERATION OR INTERVIEWS OF PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT, APPOINTMENT, PROMOTION, PERFORMANCE, DEMOTION, SALARIES, DISCIPLINING, OR RESIGNATION OF EMPLOYEES OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, SPECIFICALLY THE PERSONNEL REPORT AND THE PERSONNEL REPORT.
IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND IT.
MS. SZEL, COULD YOU DO ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. KLEIN? YES.
[7. Approval of Closed Meeting Item(s]
CAN YOU PLEASE READ US OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? JUMPED AHEAD OF OFFICE.ACCORDING TO THE VOTES RECORDED BY THE CLERK OF THE SCHOOL BOARD OF WARREN COUNTY, DOES HEREBY CERTIFY THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONE, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
WERE DISCUSSED AT THE CLO ENCLOSED MEETING TO WHICH THE CERTIFICATION APPLIES AND TWO, ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION BY WHICH THE CLOSED MEETING WAS CONVENED, WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD.
IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND IT.
MS. SEL, COULD YOU DO ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. KLEIN? AYE.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2026 PERSONNEL REPORT AND PERSONNEL REPORT? ADDENDUM, I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2026 PERSONNEL REPORT AND PERSONNEL REPORT ADDENDUM BE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
ANYTHING ELSE THIS EVENING? YOUR ADJOURN.